Finding the angel between two vectors

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In summary, the conversation was about finding the angle between two vectors using the dot product formula. The calculation for the dot product was correct, but the formula used was incorrect. The correct formula is given as \vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}=|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|\cos\theta. The conversation then discusses finding the magnitude of the vectors using the Pythagorean theorem and solving for the angle using the inverse cosine function. After some clarification, it is determined that the value inside the inverse cosine function should be (-24.96/sqrt[((-3.9)^2+ 1.3^3)(5.4^2+ (-3.9)^2)]) to
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I have two vectors

Vector A and B
Axi = -3
Ayj = 5.4

Bxi = 1.3
Byj = -3.9

I want the angle between them so I do the dot product

(-3)(1.3)+(5.4)(-3.9) = -24.96

Therefore the angle between them is

-24.96 = |-24.96|cos(theta)

Arccos(-24.96/24.96) = theta

Arccos(-1) = theta

Theta = pi = 180 degrees.

Is this correct? :confused:
 
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Your calculation for the dot product is correct, however you have used the wrong formula: the formula you need is [tex]\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}=|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|\cos\theta[/tex]. How do you find the magnitude of a vector? (i.e. [itex]|\vec{a}|[/itex])
 
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cristo said:
How do you find the magnitude of a vector? (i.e. [itex]|\vec{a}|[/itex])


Ok so the magnitude of vector a would be
= sqrt(5.4^2 + 3^2)
= (3*sqrt(106))/5
= 6.18

Magnitude of B would be
= sqrt(-3.9^2 + 1.3^2)
= (13*sqrt(10))/10
= 4.11

therefore

-24.96 = abs(4.11) * abs(6.18) cos(theta)

Theta = arccos [(-24.96)/(abs(4.11) * abs(6.18))]

theta = 90 degrees = pi/2 radians

Does this look accurate?
 
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It can't be 90. That would imply the dot product is zero (see the formula mentioned)
 
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[tex]\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}=|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|\cos\theta[/tex]

I guess I am still confused on the [tex]|\vec{a}||\vec{b}|[/tex] part

this would be finding the magnitudes then multiplying their absolute values together right? The magnitudes are found with pathegoran's theorem correct?
 
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ssb said:
Ok so the magnitude of vector a would be
= sqrt(5.4^2 + 3^2)
= (3*sqrt(106))/5
= 6.18

Magnitude of B would be
= sqrt(-3.9^2 + 1.3^2)
= (13*sqrt(10))/10
= 4.11

therefore

-24.96 = abs(4.11) * abs(6.18) cos(theta)

Theta = arccos [(-24.96)/(abs(4.11) * abs(6.18))]

What is the value of [(-24.96)/(abs(4.11) * abs(6.18))]?
 
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cristo said:
What is the value of [(-24.96)/(abs(4.11) * abs(6.18))]?
its just about -1.

Find the angle between
A = -3i + 5.4j
B = 1.3i - 3.9j

(-3 * 1.3)+(5.4 * -3.9) = -24.96

-24.96 = ab cos(theta)

therefore

theta = arccos (-24.96/sqrt[(2^2+1.3^2)(5.4^2+(-3.9)^2)]

theta = domain error when I try to calculate it.
 
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ssb said:
its just about -1.

Find the angle between
A = -3i + 5.4j
B = 1.3i - 3.9j

(-3 * 1.3)+(5.4 * -3.9) = -24.96

-24.96 = ab cos(theta)

therefore

theta = arccos (-24.96/sqrt[(2^2+1.3^2)(5.4^2+(-3.9)^2)]

theta = domain error when I try to calculate it.
Where did you get that "2" in the square root? You should have
sqrt[((-3.9)^2+ 1.3^3)(5.4^2+ (-3.9)^2)].
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Where did you get that "2" in the square root? You should have
sqrt[((-3.9)^2+ 1.3^3)(5.4^2+ (-3.9)^2)].

When you replaced my 2 with a -3.9, did you mean to replace it with a -3?

If this is the case then my questions have been answered!

thanks everybody for helping me with this most basic topic
 

1. What is the "angel" between two vectors?

The "angel" between two vectors refers to the angle formed between the two vectors when they are placed tail-to-tail.

2. How do you find the "angel" between two vectors?

To find the "angel" between two vectors, you can use the dot product formula: A · B = |A| * |B| * cos(θ), where A and B are the two vectors and θ is the angle between them. Rearranging this formula, we can solve for θ: θ = arccos((A · B) / (|A| * |B|)).

3. Why is it important to find the "angel" between two vectors?

Finding the "angel" between two vectors is important in various applications of vectors, such as in physics, engineering, and mathematics. It allows us to determine the direction and magnitude of the resultant vector when two or more vectors are added.

4. Can the "angel" between two vectors be negative?

No, the "angel" between two vectors cannot be negative. The angle between two vectors is always measured as the smallest positive angle between them, ranging from 0° to 180°. If the vectors are in opposite directions, the angle would be 180°.

5. Are there any special cases when finding the "angel" between two vectors?

Yes, there are two special cases when finding the "angel" between two vectors: when the vectors are parallel and when one of the vectors is a zero vector. When the vectors are parallel, the angle between them is either 0° or 180°, depending on whether they are in the same or opposite direction. When one of the vectors is a zero vector, the angle is undefined.

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