Finding the Column Space of Matrix A

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The discussion focuses on finding the column space of a matrix A that row-reduces to a specific form. The key point is that the second column is a multiple of the first, which means it does not contribute to the column space. The correct expression for the column space is the span of the pivot columns from the original matrix, specifically {(1, 2, 1), (1, 1, 1), (1, 0, 2)}. It is clarified that the column space is not a subspace of R3 but rather spans R3 itself. Understanding the role of pivot columns is essential for determining the column space accurately.
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Homework Statement



We have a matrix A which row-reduces to:

A = \left[\begin{array}{ccccc} 1&2&0&0\\ 0&0&1&0\\0&0&0&1 \end{array}\right]

I'm asked to find the column space of A.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure what to write down for this question... Here's what I think:

col(A) = {x1(1,0,0)+x2(2,0,0)+x3((0,1,0)+x4(0,0,1), x \in R^4}

Since the 2nd column is simply a multiple of the first maybe it makes it a subspace of R3, I'm not sure...
 
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Almost. You look at the pivot rows in the reduced form of the matrix, but take the span of the corresponding rows in the original matrix.
 
rochfor1 said:
Almost. You look at the pivot rows in the reduced form of the matrix, but take the span of the corresponding rows in the original matrix.

Hi!

Thanks, now if I write that using the corresponding rows in the original matrix, it'll look like:

col(A) = {x1(1,2,1)+x2(2,4,2)+x3((1,1,1)+x4(1,0,2), x \in R^4}

But I know that the 2nd column is a multiple of the first column, how do I need to express it? I'm not sure what to do about this.
 
That's the beauty of it---when you row reduce the matrix, you see that the second column is in the span of the pivot columns, so it doesn't count towards the column space. Just forget about it. In other words,

col(A)=span{(1,2,1),(1,1,1),(1,0,2)}
 
roam said:

Homework Statement



We have a matrix A which row-reduces to:

A = \left[\begin{array}{ccccc} 1&2&0&0\\ 0&0&1&0\\0&0&0&1 \end{array}\right]

I'm asked to find the column space of A.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure what to write down for this question... Here's what I think:

col(A) = {x1(1,0,0)+x2(2,0,0)+x3((0,1,0)+x4(0,0,1), x \in R^4}

Since the 2nd column is simply a multiple of the first maybe it makes it a subspace of R3, I'm not sure...
Yes, since the second column is a multiple of the first, you don't need it!
The column space is just the space spanned by {(1, 0, 0), (0, 1, 0), (0, 0, 1)} and is precisely R3, not a subspace of it.
 
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