Finding the displacement of a braking car, with limited variables.

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A car traveling at 120 km/h (33.3 m/s) slams on the brakes, and the task is to determine the skid mark length given a coefficient of friction of 0.62. The discussion highlights the challenge of finding displacement without a time variable. Participants suggest using the coefficient of friction to calculate the force, which can then be applied to find acceleration using Newton's second law. An important correction is noted regarding the equations for displacement, emphasizing the need for accurate formulas. Ultimately, the conversation focuses on deriving the necessary variables to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


A car is traveling at 120km/h when it slams on the brakes. How long is the skid mark if the coefficient of friction is 0.62?(hint: convert km/h to m/s)

Given: initial velocity: 33.3m/s; final velocity: 0m/s; coefficient of fricition: 0.62

Homework Equations


μ = Ffriction/Fnormal; a= Force/mass

The Attempt at a Solution


Because of the absense of a time value, I'm finding it very difficult to use and displacement equation I've been given. I understand the the change in velocity (after being conversted to m/s) is 33.33m/s, but that's as far as I've gotten.

I was wondering is anyone could help me derive some other variable: such as the change in time, or the acceleration, with the given data.
 
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Symon said:
A car is traveling at 120km/h when it slams on the brakes. How long is the skid mark if the coefficient of friction is 0.62?(hint: convert km/h to m/s)

Because of the absense of a time value, I'm finding it very difficult to use and displacement equation I've been given.

Hi Symon! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Is the "displacement equation" work done = force times (or "dot") displacement?

If so, you don't need the time. :wink:
 
Thus far, i am unfamiliar with that equation, here are some of the equations that I've either derived or have been given:

1) ∆d=〖(∆v)〗^2/2a
2) ∆d= ∆v∆t
3) ∆d=vi∆t+ 1/2 a〖(∆t)〗^2

As you can see, the first equation that i have neglects time, but i am unable to use it without finding the acceleration (which is another equation i need time for). Is there some alternate way i can find the acceleration, force involved, time, or mass?
 
ok … you're using the usual constant acceleration equations.

(but #1 is wrong … it should have ∆(v2), not (∆v)2, and #2 is completely wrong … replace it with ∆v = a∆t)

Yes, you can find the acceleration, a, by starting with the friction coefficient, µ = 0.62 …

that will give you the force, and then you can find the acceleration from good ol' Newton's second law. :wink:
 
Thank you :)
 
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