Finding the equation of a straight line in 3 dimensions.

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The discussion revolves around proving that the shortest path between two points in three dimensions is a straight line, specifically using parametric equations for the coordinates. The original poster has attempted to apply the Euler-Lagrange equations but is uncertain about the next steps in deriving the straight line equation from their findings.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are discussing the implications of the Euler-Lagrange equations and how they relate to the constants derived from them. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between the derivatives of the coordinates and the equation of a straight line.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the form of the straight line equation and questioning how to derive relationships like dx/dy from the constants presented. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps or interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the need to clarify notation and definitions related to derivatives and the parametric representation of the straight line.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the shortest path between two points in three dimensions is a straight line. Write the path in the parametric form:

x=x(u) y=y(u) z=z(u)

and then use the 3 Euler-Lagrange equations corresponding to ∂f/∂x=(d/du)∂f/∂y'.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I found all of the answers in relation to the Euler-Lagrange equations, but I am not sure where to go from there. For each coordinate, ∂f/∂x,∂f/∂y,∂f/∂z, they all equal 0 so that means that d/du(∂f/∂x,y,z) are all also zero. As a result, I get constants for each and hence don't know how to implement these constants into a straight line equation.

The constants are :
∂L/∂x'=x'(u)/(x'(u)^2 +y'(u)^2 +z'(u)^2)^(1/2)=C_1
∂L/∂y'=y'(u)/(x'(u)^2 +y'(u)^2 +z'(u)^2)^(1/2)=C_2
∂L/∂z'=z'(u)/(x'(u)^2 +y'(u)^2 +z'(u)^2)^(1/2)=C_3
 
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seeingstars63 said:
The constants are :
∂L/∂x'=x'(u)/(x'(u)^2 +y'(u)^2 +z'(u)^2)^(1/2)=C_1
∂L/∂y'=y'(u)/(x'(u)^2 +y'(u)^2 +z'(u)^2)^(1/2)=C_2
∂L/∂z'=z'(u)/(x'(u)^2 +y'(u)^2 +z'(u)^2)^(1/2)=C_3

What's the equation for a straight line? Can you find for example dx/dy from these equations?
 
Thanks for the reply, clamtrox. I get what the equation of a straight line is: y=mx+b, but I'm not sure what you mean for finding dx/dy from those equations. There is also a dz.
 
seeingstars63 said:
Thanks for the reply, clamtrox. I get what the equation of a straight line is: y=mx+b, but I'm not sure what you mean for finding dx/dy from those equations. There is also a dz.

Yes, but perhaps a more useful way to write that equation is y = \frac{dy}{dx}x + y(0).
 
seeingstars63 said:
Thanks for the reply, clamtrox. I get what the equation of a straight line is: y=mx+b, but I'm not sure what you mean for finding dx/dy from those equations. There is also a dz.

Yes sorry, that was bad notation. I of course mean partial derivatives: ∂x/∂y = x'(u)/y'(u)
 

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