Finding the maximum displacement of a vertical spring using energy conservation

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A mass of 0.36 kg is suspended from a vertical spring, initially at 0.51 m unstretched length, and is pulled down to 1.09 m with an initial upward speed of 1.2 m/s. The spring constant is calculated to be approximately 12.18 N/m using the formula F = k*y. Energy conservation is applied to find the maximum displacement, leading to the equation A = sqrt((1.09 - 0.51)^2 + (0.36/12.18)*1.2^2), resulting in a maximum length of 1.11 m. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying energy equations and identifying points of zero energy in the spring's motion. The calculations and energy conservation principles are central to determining the spring's maximum displacement.
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Homework Statement



A mass of 0.36kg hangs motionless from a vertical spring whose length is 0.8m and whose unstretched length is 0.51m. Next, the mass is pulled down to where the spring has a length of 1.09m and given an initial speed upwards of 1.2m[PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmmi10/alpha/144/char3D.pngs. What is the maximum length of the spring during the motion that follows?

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Homework Equations



F = k*y
1/2*k*A^2[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



k = F/y = m*g/y = 0.36kg*9.8m/s^2/(0.8m - 0.51) = 12.17793N/m

Energy is conserved

Let A be the maximum displacement

So 1/2*k*A^2 = 1/2*k*(1.09 - 0.51)^2 + 1/2*m*v^2

so A = sqrt((1.09 - 0.51)^2 + m/k*v^2) = sqrt((1.09 -0.51)^2 + 0.36/12.18*1.2^2) = 0.5974m

So the length will be 0.51 + 0.5974m = 1.11m

I only have one attempt wrong, Cant find the error..[/B]
 
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You only have two relevant equations -- if I count the second as an equation: spring potential energy = 1/2 k x2.

You also use a third one: kinetic energy = 1/2 m v2.

You forget a fourth one. Yet another energy...:wink:Oh, and: perhaps you want to check "1/2*k*(1.09 - 0.51)^2" which doesn't look right to me. At what point do you expect there is no energy stored in the spring ? And is that the top position, or is that the middle between top and bottom of the oscillation ?
 
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Would it be 1/2*k*(1.09 - 0.8)^2 and 1/2*k*(.8 - 0.51)^2

I do you KE=1/2 mv^2 I thought? I'm confused on what else there could be.
 
Check your energy approach with the following:
Hold the weight at spring unextended length 0.51 m and let go. How far will it drop until it will go up again (i.e. v = 0)
Would you do ##{1\over 2} kx^2 = {1\over 2} mv^2= 0 ## to find x ?
 
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