Finding the Minimum and Maximum Speed on a Sloped Surface

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The discussion revolves around calculating the minimum and maximum speed of a car moving on a sloped circular surface. Key points include the need to establish a relationship between centripetal force and frictional force, with equations such as F = mv^2/r and F = kN being central to the solution. Participants emphasize the importance of drawing free body diagrams and converting angles from degrees to radians for accurate calculations. The conversation highlights the distinction between speeds on a slope versus a flat surface, suggesting that the slope affects the minimum speed required for centripetal force to balance friction. Ultimately, the focus is on applying the correct formulas to determine the speeds based on the given parameters.
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I draw free body diagram but I cannot attempt to go from there. Help Please.

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I have found the mui with no friction but that is not relevant to finding the answer. I have spent 25 hours on this question. Please just someone help me.
 
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Frictional force = centripetal force. Assume some m for mass of car. Write the eqn.
 
Shooting star said:
Frictional force = centripetal force. Assume some m for mass of car. Write the eqn.

im still lostt.
 
The car is moving on a circular curve, and so there must be a centripetal force acting on it. The only force that prevents the car from flying off is the force of friction between the wheel and the road, acting inward.

Frictional force F = mv^2/r. Also, F = kN = kmg, where k is co-eff of friction. Can you do it now? Remember, s = r*theta.
 
Shooting star said:
The car is moving on a circular curve, and so there must be a centripetal force acting on it. The only force that prevents the car from flying off is the force of friction between the wheel and the road, acting inward.

Frictional force F = mv^2/r. Also, F = kN = kmg, where k is co-eff of friction. Can you do it now? Remember, s = r*theta.

Shooting can u please check your email no clue. How many Free body diagrams must I draw. 2. I still cannot understand.
 
s, the arc length, is given as 200 m and theta as 30 deg. So, you can find r, right? Convert 30 deg to radians.

After that just plug in the values given in the formula I've given: mv^2/r = kmg.
That shouldn't be too difficult. You'll get the max speed.
 
Are you sure you copied the question exactly?

I ask because if the car were on a flat surface, I don't see how there could be a Vmin for this problem (unless I'm missing something here).

If I'm right then I would guess it's more likely that the 30 degrees is the slope the car is on, in which case Vmin will be the speed which gives the centripetal force that perfectly cancels frictional force (when it is acting inwards) and likewise for Vmax assuming an outward acting frictional force.
 
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