Finding the moment of inertia and torque for a spinning ball

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The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia and torque for a ball moving in a circular path. The ball has a specified mass and radius, and it undergoes a defined angular displacement over a set time period.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of moment of inertia, with one suggesting it is simply mass times radius squared, while others note the need for a factor depending on the shape. There is also a consideration of torque, with questions about its calculation and relationship to angular acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of moment of inertia and torque. Some have provided insights into the relationship between torque and angular acceleration, while others are questioning how to approach the calculation of radial acceleration given the changing angular velocity.

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Participants are navigating the definitions and applications of torque and moment of inertia, with some uncertainty about the appropriate formulas and their derivations. There is a focus on the implications of the ball being treated as a point mass in this context.

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Homework Statement


A ball is going around in a circle of radius 5 m.
It starts from rest, and goes through an angle change of 26 rad in 5 seconds.

The ball weighs 0.3 kg.

Find its moment of inertia, and find the torque about the origin.


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The Attempt at a Solution


What I'm doing seems too simple, so I bet it's wrong...

I thought moment of inertia was just mass times radius2. My textbook doesn't give it for this situation but it gives the moment of inertia for other shapes, all of which are this but multiplied by some factor.

And I think the torque would be zero because the force acting on the ball would be towards the center of the circle, and since torque is r x F, and F is 180 to r, rFsin(180) = 0.
 
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jumbogala said:

The Attempt at a Solution


What I'm doing seems too simple, so I bet it's wrong...

I thought moment of inertia was just mass times radius2. My textbook doesn't give it for this situation but it gives the moment of inertia for other shapes, all of which are this but multiplied by some factor.

And I think the torque would be zero because the force acting on the ball would be towards the center of the circle, and since torque is r x F, and F is 180 to r, rFsin(180) = 0.

Well it is just a point mass so the inertia is just mr2. The torque would be equal to the moment of inertia*angular acceleration.
 
Why is the torque equal to the angular acceleration though?
 
jumbogala said:
Why is the torque equal to the angular acceleration though?

Torque is the rate of change of angular momentum.

[tex]\tau = \frac{d}{dt}(I \omega)= I \frac{d\omega}{dt}=I \alpha[/tex]
 
Oh okay, thank you.

This made me wonder if you can find the radial component of the force on the ball using torque, since torque is the rotational equivalent of force.

I was going to find the radial acceleration, but I don't know how seeing as the radial acceleration is equal to ω2r, and ω is constantly changing!
 

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