Finding the potential different across an un-parallel plate capacitor

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The discussion focuses on calculating the potential difference across an un-parallel plate capacitor with varying distances between the plates. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding electric fields and potential along metal surfaces, noting that potential remains constant across a surface while the electric field varies. The conversation highlights the need to consider the shape of electric field lines, suggesting that they can be approximated as circular arcs for calculations. Participants also reference Gauss' Law to relate surface charge density to the electric field within the capacitor. Overall, the discussion aims to clarify the relationship between electric fields, potential differences, and charge distribution in this specific capacitor configuration.
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Homework Statement



Two plates of equal area: length b, width w
On one side, the plates are a distance d away from each other, on the other side, a distance d+a

Homework Equations



No equations given. Using
E= kq/r^2, V=-∫E*dl


The Attempt at a Solution



E = kq ∫∫dxdz/(x^2 + z^2 + y(x)^2)

y(x) = a + ax/b

Integrating x from 0 to b, and z from 0 to w.

Doing this gives a very very messy solution, give me the impression that this is the incorrect path.
 

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Hi Phy00, welcome to PF.
The plates are of metal, aren't they? What do you know about the potential along a metal surface?

Is the charge on the plates given?

ehild
 
The only thing given is the information on the figure. Yes, two metal plates.
 
Presumably the net charge on a plate is given. What do you know, can the potential change along a metal plate?

ehild
 
Do you mean that since the potential is same throughout a surface, I only need to find out the field at a certain point?
 
No, the field changes along the plates while the potential is constant. You need to guess the form of the electric field lines and find the surface charge density along the plates. What do you know about the direction of the electric field lines at an equipotential surface?

ehild
 
The field lines are ⊥ to the surface... so they would curve.
 
Yes. I think they can be considered circular arcs. Make a drawing. The potential difference at a distance from one edge of the capacitor can be obtained by integrating the electric field along the arc. You can consider the field constant along an arc. The electric field is connected to the surface charge density. You can get it in terms of the potential difference from the integral. Integrating the surface charge density for the plate, you get the relation between the charge and potential difference.

ehild
 
I'm a little lost when you say "The electric field is connected to the surface charge density."
Also, I can see how the field lines can curve, but near the edges, they wouldn't be circular.
 
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Do not mind the edges. You need some assumption about the electric field lines, and circular shape fullfills the requirement that they are perpendicular to the plates.

From Gauss' Law you know that q/ε0 field lines emerge from a charge q. In case of σ charge per unit area, the electric field inside the capacitor is σ/ε0 near a plate.

ehild
 
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