Finding Radius of 3 Congruent Tangential Circles in Larger Circle

In summary, the conversation discussed how to construct three congruent circles inside a larger circle, each tangential to both the outer circle and the other two circles. The participants shared formulas and tips on how to find the distance of the inner circles' center points from the outside circle's center point. They also provided helpful resources and images for visual reference.
  • #1
BobFijiwinkle
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Hello everyone!

I'm trying to find out how to precisely construct three congruent circles inside a larger circle, each tangential to both the outer circle and the other two circles. For example:
[PLAIN]http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1044/verybasicdrawing.png

An image I found on the internet, but with six:
[URL]http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/32400/32425/_32425_lg.gif[/URL]

I'm using the Geogebra program (http://www.geogebra.org/" ) on Ubuntu 11.4 Natty, but I'm mainly looking for the geometry behind it.

I saw on https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1822287&postcount=2" (thanks ZharAngel) how to find a point at a given angle and distance from another point. However, I need to find the distance of the inner circles' center points from the outside circle's center point.

Help anyone?

Thanks!
BF
 
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  • #2
Hello BF! :smile:

Hint: if the smaller circles have radius r, then their centres form an equilateral triangle of length 2r …

how far is its centre from each vertex? :wink:​
 
  • #3
Excellent, thank you! Good hint.

The formula I have (that seems to work) is

SmallRadius = [tex]\frac{LargeRadius \sin 60}{1 + \sin 60}[/tex]

If you paste the following into an html document, you can see it in action.

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<h2>Congruent Tangential Circles</h2>
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This construction shows three tangential circles inside a larger circle. The inside circles are tangential to both the two other circles and the outer circle.</p>


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Use the Radius slider to adjust the large circle radius, and the Angle slider to adjust the position of the smaller circles inside the larger one, as well as their colors.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:small">Bob Fijiwinkle, Created with <a href="[PLAIN]http://www.geogebra.org/"[/PLAIN]  target="_blank" >GeoGebra</a></span></p></td></tr>
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Thanks very much, tiny-tim!

BF
 
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1. What is the formula for finding the radius of three congruent tangential circles in a larger circle?

The formula for finding the radius of three congruent tangential circles in a larger circle is: r = (R/2) x (1 + √3), where r is the radius of the smaller circles and R is the radius of the larger circle.

2. How do you determine the radius of the larger circle if the radius of the smaller circles is known?

To determine the radius of the larger circle, you can use the formula: R = (2r)/(1 + √3), where r is the radius of the smaller circles. This formula is derived from the previous formula by solving for R.

3. Can this formula be used for any number of congruent tangential circles in a larger circle?

Yes, this formula can be used for any number of congruent tangential circles in a larger circle. As long as the circles are tangential (touching) to each other and to the larger circle, this formula will work.

4. What is the significance of the number √3 in the formula for finding the radius?

The number √3 represents the ratio between the radius of the larger circle and the radius of one of the smaller circles. It is derived from the relationship between the side and the radius of an equilateral triangle inscribed in a circle, which is √3/2.

5. Can this formula be used for non-congruent tangential circles in a larger circle?

No, this formula is specifically for finding the radius of three congruent tangential circles in a larger circle. For non-congruent circles, a different formula or method would be needed to find the radius.

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