Finding the Right DC/DC Converter for Iowa State SAE

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable DC/DC converter for the Iowa State University SAE team, which is using electromagnetic clutches in their vehicle. The focus is on boosting a regulated 12V DC supply to 24V DC, with considerations for reliability and availability of components, as well as the implications of weight in the design.

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Main Points Raised

  • Robert Hill outlines the need for a DC/DC converter to boost 12V DC to 24V DC for two electromagnetic clutches, expressing concerns about reliability and potential failure during competition.
  • Some participants question the necessity of using 24V clutches, suggesting that 12V options might be more readily available and cost-effective.
  • Concerns are raised about the cost of industrial and military-grade supplies, which can be prohibitively expensive.
  • One participant mentions the importance of weight in the design, noting that converters can add significant weight to the vehicle.
  • Robert shares a specific product link from Mouser that seems to fit their application but expresses uncertainty about its reliability.
  • Another participant suggests revisiting the clutch selection for cost and reliability reasons, indicating that there may be better options available.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the choice of clutches and the associated DC/DC converters. There is no consensus on the best approach, and concerns about reliability and cost remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations regarding the availability of components and the implications of weight in the vehicle design, which could affect performance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for engineering students or teams involved in automotive design, particularly those working with DC/DC converters and electromagnetic systems.

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Hey Everyone,

I am working with the Iowa State University SAE and need to find a DC/DC Converter that fits our application. We are running two electromagnetic clutches instead of a traditional differential. So I need to be able to take the regulated 12V DC at 10A from the stator and boost it to 24V DC. Each clutch needs around 2A.

I have noticed a lot of the converters have an on/off functionality and I was considering using two converters so that I can control which clutch/clutches has power.

I have found a couple that appear to fit out application but I am kind of worried about them failing. I am hoping to find something very reliable because if they fail we will basically be out of luck at our competition. (Everyone on the team that drove 36 hours would be pretty upset with me.)

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Robert Hill

p.s. I need to find something on a reasonably short time frame, hopefully I can get a hold of something in the next couple of weeks.
 
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tarmon.gaidon said:
Hey Everyone,

I am working with the Iowa State University SAE and need to find a DC/DC Converter that fits our application. We are running two electromagnetic clutches instead of a traditional differential. So I need to be able to take the regulated 12V DC at 10A from the stator and boost it to 24V DC. Each clutch needs around 2A.

I have noticed a lot of the converters have an on/off functionality and I was considering using two converters so that I can control which clutch/clutches has power.

I have found a couple that appear to fit out application but I am kind of worried about them failing. I am hoping to find something very reliable because if they fail we will basically be out of luck at our competition. (Everyone on the team that drove 36 hours would be pretty upset with me.)

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Robert Hill

p.s. I need to find something on a reasonably short time frame, hopefully I can get a hold of something in the next couple of weeks.

Just curious: Why are you locked into a 24 volt clutch? There are tons of 12 volt clutches out there.
 
Truthfully I wasn't the one selecting the clutch but from what I understand there were several 12V clutches that we looked at but either price or availability stopped us from acquiring them.
 
tarmon.gaidon said:
Truthfully I wasn't the one selecting the clutch but from what I understand there were several 12V clutches that we looked at but either price or availability stopped us from acquiring them.

If there is still time, in the interest of cost and reliability, you might want to revisit the clutch selection.

What worries you about your existing choices? I could link to a number of options through standard suppliers but don't know that they would be any better than what you have already selected.
 
I guess truthfully I am not sure what worries me. This is something I am not really familiar with and I wanted to make sure that I find something that will be very reliable.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cincon/CHB50-12S24/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtwaiKVUtQsNZk%2fyhBUJKktmTV1yafdAHw%3d

This is the only mouser had that seemed to fit our application that wasn't out of stock for the next two months.
 
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The problem is that you need an inexpensive supply. Industrial and military grade supplies this size can run as much as $400-$500.

I thought I had a link for one from Allied, but they didn't have the proper input range for the amp rating. You might scan Allied for any other options.
http://www.alliedelec.com/

You might also try checking with Lambda and Sola directly.
 
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Tarmon: Don't forget about the weight! A converter is going to be generally heavy... a lot heavier than not having one xD Every gram makes a difference!

Oh, and we'll see you at competition this year. Good luck :)

Paul - University of Western Ontario FSAE
 

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