Finding Triangle Area using Cross Product

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The problem involves finding the area of a triangle defined by the points P, Q, and R in three-dimensional space using vector operations, specifically the cross product.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of vectors PQ and PR and their cross product to find the area. There are questions about the calculations and the reasoning behind dividing by two to obtain the area of the triangle from the parallelogram.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided MATLAB code to illustrate the calculations, while others are questioning the accuracy of the original poster's computations. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical principles involved, particularly regarding the relationship between the area of a triangle and the cross product.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in the calculations and the need for clarity on the mathematical concepts being applied, such as the significance of the cross product and the division by two for the area calculation.

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Homework Statement



Find the area of a triangle `PQR`, where `P=(0,4,4)`, `Q=(2,-6,-5)`, and `R=(-3,-5,6)`

The Attempt at a Solution



The vector PQ = (2, -10, -9)
The vector PR = (-3, -9, 2)

Using matrixes I set up something that looks like this...

I J K
2 -10 -9
-3 -9 2

Then using the matrix methods I get.

I(-20 - 81) - J(4 - 27) + K(-18 - 30)

I(-101) - J(-23) + K(48)

I take the square root of the squares and get.

109.4349122

Answer = 57.0832725061

What's the problem?
 
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%was too lazy to do computations, so here's the MATLAB code (might help you)
u =

-3 -9 2

>> v

v =

2 -10 -9

>> cross(v,u)

ans =

-101 23 -48

ans =

114.1665

>> ans/2

ans =

57.0833

why divided by 2?
because axb = |a|.|b|.sin theta
and area is 1/2 of that
 
The area of a parallelogram formed by two vectors, [itex]\vec{u}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{v}[/itex], is [itex]|\vec{u}\times\vec{v}|[/itex]. Since a triangle is half a parallelogram, the the area of a triangle having sides [itex]\vec{u}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] is half that.
 
RootX, the square root of what you have square doesn't match up with the answer you have.
 
-101 23 -48

ans =

114.1665

>> ans/2

ans =

57.0833

why divided by 2?
because axb = |a|.|b|.sin theta
and area is 1/2 of that

If you take the magnitude the negative numbers will become positive

[tex] \sqrt{(-101)^2 + (23)^2 + (-48)^2}= 114.167 ~ /2 = 57.0833<br /> [/tex]
 

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