Finding Voltage Gain: Help with Homework

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The discussion focuses on understanding how to find voltage gain in a circuit involving a dependent source and various resistances. The key point is that the voltage Vs can be expressed as the sum of voltages across Rs, Vgs, and R1, emphasizing that these voltages are in series. Participants clarify that Rs should not be considered a short circuit despite the absence of current through it. The conversation highlights the importance of relating internal voltages to component values and independent sources to derive the transfer function Vo/Vs. Overall, the discussion aims to guide the user towards correctly applying circuit analysis principles to solve the homework problem.
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I can't seem to figure out the answer. Apparently, the right method involves saying that Vs is actually equal to the voltage Vgs + voltage across R1. I don't understand how Vs could be voltage across R1?
This is what I have so far
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I think the first two bullet points that I wrote are correct but 99% sure that the circuit transformation I did is completely wrong.
 

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I wouldn't call Rs a short circuit just because there is no current through it!

Vs = voltage across Rs + Vgs + voltage across R1
because these voltages are in series between the point where the potential is Vs and the point where the potential is zero volts (ground)
 
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NascentOxygen said:
I wouldn't call Rs a short circuit just because there is no current through it!

Vs = voltage across Rs + Vgs + voltage across R1
because these voltages are in series between the point where the potential is Vs and the point where the potential is zero volts (ground)

Oh. I see. So you're sort of looking at it like this. And that's how u found out what Vs breaks down into

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Arrow doesn't mean current.
 

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Yes. For every path traced between 2 nominated points, the total potential will be equal.
 
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Yes. For every path traced between 2 nominated points, the total potential will be equal.
Great! Thank you very much. I think I should be able to get it from here.
 
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Yes. For every path traced between 2 nominated points, the total potential will be equal.

I take that statement back. I'm stil stuck :(
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I just went in a full circle back to the equation I started with...
 

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Express VR1 in terms of the current through R1.
 
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Express VR1 in terms of the current through it.
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I suggest you go back just one step.

You have a dependent source (gmVgs) that relies on an internal voltage (vgs). you need to relate that internal voltage to component values and independent sources.

Write out the expression as Vgs =? as a function of Vs, gm, R1, and constants.

Once you get that expresion, you already stated that the output is -gmVgsR2, you should be able to solve for your transfer function Vo/Vs. You're very close

Also just a note, pay attention to this model, it will become more important as you learn more about circuitry. It is the small signal model for a type of transistor, a MOSFET
 

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