Five train cars and their final speed

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The problem involves three identical train cars rolling east at a certain speed, a fourth car catching up and coupling with them, and then a fifth car at rest being coupled after a collision. The objective is to determine the final speed of the five-car train using principles of momentum conservation.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply momentum conservation but seems to misinterpret the addition of velocities. Some participants suggest using the conservation of momentum equation directly to find the final speed.

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The original poster expresses confusion about their calculations and seeks clarification on their approach, indicating a need for further understanding of the momentum conservation principle.

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Homework Statement



Three identical train cars, coupled together, are rolling east at 1.13 m/s. A fourth car traveling east at 6.43 m/s catches up with the three and couples to make a four-car train. A moment later, the train cars hit a fifth car that was at rest on the tracks, and it couples to make a five-car train. All 5 cars are identical. What is the speed of the five-car train?


Homework Equations



pinitial = pfinal
m1v1+m2v2 = mtotalvfinal

The Attempt at a Solution



so this is what i did

3mV+ mV= 4mV [the masses cancel]
(1.13)+(6.43)= V
7.56 m/s = v

4mV+ mv = 5mv
Vtotal+0 = vfinal
7.56 m/s = vfinal

can someone pls tell me what I'm doing wrong thanks :))
 
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Looks like this exact same problem was recently discussed here:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=155891

I haven't read it, but it might help quite a bit. I also recommend you label your velocities like v1, v2, etc.

Edit: Seems you noticed it already, I see your post in there now.
 
You do not add the velocities. You use the conservation of momentum equation. So for the first part you would have...

3m*(1.13 m/s) + m*(6.43 m/s) = 4m*v_final

Then you solve for v_final. You do the same for the last part of the problem.
 
thank u sooo much :)) i feel so foolish that was really straighforward..thanx again
 

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