Flammables Cabinet DIY or alternatives?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction of a flammables cabinet for a high school lab, exploring materials such as plywood and metal, as well as alternative options. Participants consider regulatory requirements and the effectiveness of different materials in fire resistance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the superiority of a 1-inch thick plywood cabinet over metal, citing potential warping under heat.
  • Another participant raises the importance of understanding regulations and fire codes related to flammables cabinets.
  • A participant references OSHA regulations that allow for wood cabinets, detailing specific construction requirements for both wood and metal cabinets.
  • Concerns are expressed about the feasibility of building a custom cabinet without incurring high testing costs, suggesting alternatives like fire-rated wall board as a cheaper option.
  • Discussion includes the idea that the choice between wood and metal may depend on cost-effectiveness and specific fire resistance needs.
  • A historical example is provided regarding the use of wood in heat shields, suggesting that wood can provide insulation in certain contexts.
  • A participant shares a link to a plan for building a flammables cabinet from plywood that meets National Fire Protection Association code requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness and suitability of wood versus metal for flammables cabinets, and there is no consensus on the best material or construction method. Regulatory requirements and cost considerations are also debated without a clear resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various regulatory standards and construction requirements, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these regulations on DIY projects. There are also uncertainties regarding the cost-effectiveness of different materials and construction methods.

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Hi, I was looking into building a flammables cabinet for our high school lab. Flinn suggests a 1 inch thick plywood cabinet is superior to a metal cabinet because it will not warp under heat. I was curious if that'e true, or of any other alternatives to a flammables cabinet. Thanks.
 
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No regulations, fire codes, that will deal with the requirements?
 
Yes, OSHA:

regulations also provide an option for wood cabinets. 1910.106(d)(3)(ii)(b) states that wood cabinets must be constructed in the following manner:

Bottom, top and sides of cabinet shall be at constructed of exterior grade plywood at least 1" thick
Plywood shall not break down or delaminate under fire conditions
Joints shall be rebutted and fastened in two directions with flathead wood screws
When more than one door is used, they should have a rebutted overlap of not less than 1"
Doors shall be equipped with latches and hinges that are mounted to not lose their holding capacity when subjected to fire
Door sill or pan shall be raised at least 2" above the cabinet bottom to retain spilled liquid within the cabinet
Cabinet must have a "FLAMMABLE—KEEP FIRE AWAY" legend
In addition to the requirements listed above, the UFC also requires self-closing doors. Most local authorities use one or more of these standards as a foundation for establishing local codes.

There is a similar list for metal type cabinets. I am curious if wood is better than metal. I am also looking for alternatives. Basically, I need a simple and cheap way to do it.
 
I assume you are required to use a UL listed type cabinet and can't just build your own, unless you want to spend $100K getting your new design tested.

One good and cheap way to build a fire resistant box is with "X" type wall board. There is a type of sheetrock that is fire rated. It's very inexpensive compared to plywood. Cut it by scoring with a utility knife then snapping it. It you will find a few layers of this stuff in large fire proof safes glued to the steel walls. I think this has replace asbestos boards. Building code sometimes requires this kind of wall boards. They sell a special kind of caulking that is also fire resistance that you have to use to seal the edges. It is abut $10 a tube.

Is wood better? No. as in all engineering it is just a matter of meeting a requirement at the lowest cost. If the goal is to survive a fire for 15 minutes you either need so much metal or some much wood or so much concrete. Which is cheaper depends on the details

Is wood good for heat? There was an early Chinese spacecraft that dropped some small part back to Earth (likely film??) and the heat shield that survived reentry was made of solid oak. Wood is good stuff. Notice the fire codes for building don't allow you to use steel structural members unless you pack them with solid wood on both sides. The wood provides insulation. In larger buildings they spray on a kind of foam but in residential construction they bolt lumber to the steel and not just for nailing, fire codes requires it.
 

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