Fluid Dynamics, Buoyancy problem

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To determine the volume of helium needed to lift a 400 kg payload to 8000 m, the buoyancy force must exceed the weight of the payload. The density of air decreases with altitude, described by the equation ρair = ρo * e^(-z/8000), where ρo is the sea level density of 1.25 kg/m^3. The buoyant force can be calculated using the equation B = ρair(g)V, where V is the volume of helium. To find the required volume, the air density at 8000 m must be calculated first, and the weight of helium should also be considered in the buoyancy calculations. Understanding these relationships is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


How many cubic metres of helium are required to lift a balloon with a 400 kg payload to 8000 m? Assume balloon maintains constant volume, and density of the air decreases with altitude z according to the expression \rhoair = \rho^e^-z/8000, where z is in metres and po = 1.25 kg/m^3 is the density of air at sea level.


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\rhoo = \rhofluid(g)h
B = \rho[(g)V
\rho[ = m/v

mg < \rho(g)V (Not sure if this is right?? But buoyancy should be stronger if it is to rise, correct?)

I'm not sure how to go about this. I see I need to find volume, so I know the Buoyancy equation with be used, and I think I should find the Buoyancy-- so I assume I need to find the Buoyant force on the "payload" (whatever that is.) Since I don't know the payload's density or volume, I figure that probably
mg = \rho(g)V
(400)(9.81) = B = \rho(g)V

But this doesn't seem to make sense to me??
 
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You need to determine what's the \rho of air at 8000m to be able to find out the required buoyancy.
I don't know if its requires, but take into consideration the weight of helium too.
 
Ah :( So I have to use that bit with the e? I'm not really sure how :[ I'm assuming it's some kind of calculus thing...? Related rates, perhaps?
 
Just plug in the z, which would be 8000m, and e is a known constant, just like pi.
 
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