Fluid Dynamics: Conservation of momentum equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum equation in fluid dynamics, specifically addressing a homework problem related to the application of this principle in a control volume context. Participants explore the formulation of the equation and the significance of various terms, including hydrostatic pressure forces and momentum terms.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the setup of the momentum equation, noting a missing term and questioning the sign of a force term.
  • Another participant proposes a rewritten form of the equation, breaking down the terms into pressure force and momentum terms entering and exiting the control volume.
  • A participant requests further elaboration on the hydrostatic pressure force, indicating uncertainty about its relevance to the problem.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the integration of gauge pressure over the control volume and the cancellation of atmospheric pressure effects.
  • It is noted that the hydrostatic pressure force at one section is negligible due to equal atmospheric pressures on both sides of the fluid layer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the structure of the momentum equation and the significance of the terms, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the application of hydrostatic pressure and its relevance to the problem at hand.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made about pressure contributions and the integration process for the hydrostatic pressure force, which may affect the understanding of the momentum equation in this context.

Feodalherren
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Conservation of linear momentum for fluids

The Attempt at a Solution


This seemingly simple problem has me confused. First of all, I want to set up the sum of the foces as:

-Min + Mout -Fx = 0

So first of all, not only does my Fx term have the wrong sign, I'm missing an entire term! How did he arrive at the final equation and where does the last term come from, what does it symbolize?!
 
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I don't like the way they wrote the equation. I would write it as:
$$F_{AX}=\frac{1}{2}γ_wh_1A_1+v_1ρv_1A_1-v_2sin20ρv_2A_2$$
The first term on the right hand side represents the pressure force (hydrostatic) acting on section 1 of the control volume. The second term represents the horizontal momentum entering the control volume at section 1. The third term represents the horizontal momentum exiting the control volume at section 2.

Hope this helps.

Chet
 
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That looks a lot more sensible to me, thanks. Can you elaborate on the hydrostatic pressure force? It seems to me like this is the only problem where that pops up and we did that material months ago.
 
Feodalherren said:
That looks a lot more sensible to me, thanks. Can you elaborate on the hydrostatic pressure force? It seems to me like this is the only problem where that pops up and we did that material months ago.
You have an open channel, so, at the top of the fluid layer, the pressure is atmospheric pressure. At depth z, the gauge pressure is γw z. If you integrate this gauge pressure variation over section A, you get the first term on the right hand side of the equation. Atmospheric pressure contributes on all the surfaces of the control volume, so it cancels out. The hydrostatic pressure force at section 2 is negligible, because the pressures on both sides of the layer are atmospheric, and the gauge pressures are zero.

Chet
 

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