Fluid Mechanics~ Wall shear stress

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of wall shear stress in fluid mechanics, particularly in the context of a homework problem. Participants explore the definition and calculation of wall shear stress, including the application of Newton's Law of Viscosity and specific mathematical expressions related to shear stress in a one-dimensional flow scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of wall shear stress and whether it refers to the stress at the boundary of the flow.
  • Another participant proposes using Newton's Law of Viscosity to express wall shear stress as an integral of shear stress over a defined range.
  • A different participant suggests an alternative expression for wall shear stress based on a specific function of y, indicating a possible misunderstanding of the initial interpretation.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their derived expressions and seeks validation from others.
  • Another participant agrees with a previously stated formula for wall shear stress and provides a specific numerical result based on their calculations.
  • There are multiple expressions for wall shear stress presented, indicating different interpretations or approaches to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of wall shear stress and its calculation, with no consensus reached on the correct approach or final expressions. Some participants agree on specific formulas, while others propose alternative methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical expressions and definitions, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the applicability of these formulas and the context of the problem.

Saladsamurai
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My main problem here is that I do not understand what they are asking. What is the wall shear stress? Do they mean the stress at the "floor" (or whatever you want to call it)?

If so, I am assuming I use Newton's Law of Viscosity \tau=\mu\frac{du}{dy} since this is 1-dimensional flow.

Would the wall shear stress \tau_w be given by

\tau_w=\int_{y=0}^\delta \tau(y)\, dy

and then the problem reduces to finding an expression for \tau(y)

Or am I way off here? thanks :smile:
 
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I just found http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Wall_shear_stress" . So I guess my interpretation was wrong.

So, according to this definition, I should have:

\tau_w=\mu*\frac{d}{dy}[U\sin(\frac{\pi y}{2\delta})]|_{y=0}Is that all?
 
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Saladsamurai said:
I just found http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Wall_shear_stress" . So I guess my interpretation was wrong.

So, according to this definition, I should have:

\tau_w=\mu*\frac{d}{dy}[U\sin(\frac{\pi y}{2\delta})]|_{y=0}Is that all?

Not that anyone will respond to this (since no one ever looks in this forum), but I am assuming that if the above is correct, than part (b) is as simple as solving

\frac{1}{2}\tau_w=\mu*\frac{d}{dy}[U\sin(\frac{\pi y}{2\delta})]

for y.

Sound good? Good :smile:

So I have:

\frac{\tau_w}{2}=\mu U\cos(\frac{\pi y}{2\delta})*\frac{\pi}{2\delta}

\Rightarrow \frac{\tau_w\delta}{\mu U\pi}=\cos(\frac{\pi y}{2\delta})
 
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71 views, no responses. Yesssss I am just going to keep chatting it up with myself.

Maybe I can set a new record?

Has there ever been a thread locked where there was only one speaker?

Oops! Don't answer that :smile:

I need help. (The kind PF cannot offer)
 
I'm going to reply to this thread, just to break your monologue. =)
 
I agree with Saladsamurai.

τw = μ×\frac{d}{dy}[Usin(\frac{\pi y}{2δ})]|y=0

so that, τw = 180\piμ

and τ = μ×\frac{d}{dy}[Usin(\frac{\pi y}{2δ})] when τ = τw/2

thus, 90\piμ = μ×\frac{d}{dy}[Usin(\frac{\pi y}{2δ})]

\frac{1}{2} = cos(\frac{\pi y}{2δ})

\frac{\pi}{3} = \frac{\pi y}{2δ}

y = 0.02 m
 
Saladsamurai said:
I just found This. So I guess my interpretation was wrong.

So, according to this definition, I should have:

\tau_w=\mu*[U\sin(\frac{\pi y}{2\delta})]|_{y=0}


Is that all?

Yes. If you actually apply the above formula, you get

τw=(μUπ)/(2δ)

Is that what you got?
 

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