Flux through a nonconducting shell

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving electric flux through a spherical Gaussian surface that is concentric with a nonconducting spherical shell of charge. The original poster is trying to understand the implications of Gauss' Law in this context, particularly regarding the charge enclosed by the Gaussian surface when its radius is less than that of the shell.

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  • Participants explore the concept of charge enclosed by the Gaussian surface and question whether the uniformly distributed charge Q contributes to the flux when the radius is less than the shell's radius. There is discussion about integrating to find the fraction of Q that might be enclosed.

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The discussion is active, with participants clarifying the conditions under which different charges contribute to the flux. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem, particularly about the inner and outer radii of the shell.

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There is some ambiguity in the wording of the problem regarding which radius is being referred to, leading to different interpretations of the charge enclosed by the Gaussian surface.

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A particle of charge q is inside a nonconducting spherical shell of uniformly spread charge of Q. What is the flux through a spherical Gaussian surface concentric with the shell if the radius of this Gaussian surface is less than the shell's radius?

I know we can use the formula for Gauss' Law:
Flux = charge enclosed / Epsilon not.

However I am not sure specifically what the charge enclosed is. Certainly there is charge enclosed of size q, however is there not a portion of the Q charge enclosed since the Q is uniformly distributed?
 
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reising1 said:
... however is there not a portion of the Q charge enclosed since the Q is uniformly distributed?
Yes there is. Can you calculate what fraction of Q is enclosed by a Gaussian shell of radius r < R (R = radius of entire charge distribution)?
 
Sure, I could integrate to find that. However the answer appears to be that the only charge that contributes is the q, meaning that the answer is simply q/Epsilon not.
 
And hence the answer states that the charge Q does not play a role unless you are at a radius greater than or equal to R (where R = radius of entire charge distribution)
 
reising1 said:
Sure, I could integrate to find that. However the answer appears to be that the only charge that contributes is the q, meaning that the answer is simply q/Epsilon not.
What answer appears to be saying that? Do you know what the answer is?
 
Yes, this is a homework problem that I have the book's answer to.
 
Quoted from the answer: "If the radius of the G-sphere is less than that of the shell then the only charge enclosed by the G-sphere is the charge of the particle"
 
I now see what the problem is. A shell has two radii, one larger than the other.
Let a = smaller radius and b = larger radius.

If your Gaussian surface has radius r < a, then the only charge enclosed is q.
If your Gaussian surface has radius a < r < b, then the charge enclosed is q plus a fraction of Q that depends on r.
If your Gaussian surface has radius r > b, then the charge enclosed is q + Q.
 
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Oh I understand. I assumed the "less than the shell's radius" was referring to the outer radius. The wording was a bit ambiguous. But yes, if it refers to the inner radius, this makes much more sense.
 

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