Flyer Miles with Credit Cards: Benefits & Drawbacks

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The discussion revolves around the use of credit cards to accumulate frequent flyer miles without the necessity of flying. Participants explore the benefits and drawbacks of various credit card options, including fees, point accumulation, and practical strategies for maximizing rewards. The conversation touches on personal experiences and recommendations regarding credit cards suitable for earning travel rewards.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express interest in credit cards that accumulate points for travel without needing to fly, questioning the practicality and potential costs involved.
  • Concerns are raised about the high annual fees associated with certain credit cards, such as the $95 fee for the Chase Preferred card, and whether the benefits outweigh these costs.
  • Participants note that significant spending may be required to earn enough points for travel, with some suggesting that everyday purchases could help accumulate miles.
  • There is mention of alternative credit cards with lower fees or no fees, though these may offer less favorable point accumulation rates.
  • Some participants share strategies, such as paying off credit card balances immediately to avoid interest charges while still earning miles.
  • Questions arise regarding the conversion of points to miles and the actual travel benefits associated with the accumulated points, with some expressing confusion over the terminology used in credit card marketing.
  • Participants discuss the flexibility of cash back rewards compared to airline miles, indicating a preference for more widely accepted credit cards like Amex and Discover.
  • There are inquiries about online bill payment services that accept credit cards without additional charges and whether any cards offer better than a 1:1 ratio of dollars spent to airline miles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are both benefits and drawbacks to using credit cards for accumulating flyer miles, but multiple competing views remain regarding the best strategies, card options, and the value of the rewards. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly concerning the effectiveness and practicality of different credit card choices.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the actual value of points and miles, the impact of fees on overall benefits, and the specifics of point conversion rates. There are also limitations in understanding the terms and conditions associated with various credit card offers.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in maximizing travel rewards through credit card usage, those considering applying for new credit cards, and anyone looking to understand the nuances of frequent flyer programs and credit card benefits.

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I was reading this website about using credit cards to get flyer miles just by using the card and not having to actually fly to get the "frequent flyer miles", and I think I remember reading about someone here doing something like that.
I haven't left my city in probably about 15 years, so I need to do something about that. I was thinking if I could get a couple of credit cards that accumulate points by using them, and I could use those points towards plane tickets or hotels, that would be great. But I don't know the drawbacks of it. Is it impractical? Would I have to spend tons of money just to get enough to fly? Are there fees associate with these credit cards that make it not worth it? I've done some research so far, but the credit card websites don't seem to like to put the negative aspects up front, so you have to search in depth to find them. I looked at the Chase Preferred credit card, and for the first year it's $0 fee, but then becomes a $95 fee after that. I wouldn't be able to travel within the first year, so I don't want to be paying fees for these cards. At least not $95 in fees for each card. Does anyone here have any experience doing this?
 
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Nothing comes for free. For credit cards you'd have to spend a lot of money, perhaps many times the amount of a ticket to get mileage for a ticket. Here's a website that might help:

http://www.dailymarkets.com/creditcards/5-frequent-flyer-credit-cards-offering-bonus-miles/

You can do the math just notice that when you sign up they give you a bunch of points and sometimes waive the annual fee but later the second year they charge the fee and reduce the points to 10 miles per dollar spent.
 
jedishrfu said:
Nothing comes for free. For credit cards you'd have to spend a lot of money, perhaps many times the amount of a ticket to get mileage for a ticket. Here's a website that might help:

http://www.dailymarkets.com/creditcards/5-frequent-flyer-credit-cards-offering-bonus-miles/

You can do the math just notice that when you sign up they give you a bunch of points and sometimes waive the annual fee but later the second year they charge the fee and reduce the points to 10 miles per dollar spent.
Thanks for the reply, I'll check that out.

Yeah, I figured I'd have to spend a good amount of money to get decent mileage, but I thought I could just spend that money buying stuff I would normally buy anyway, like food and gas. And 10 miles per dollar spent seems pretty good to me.
 
yeah, okay that might work over time although I don't like the $95 yearly charge. I have Amex and Discover and don't remember paying a fee that high. If you don't care about the miles then maybe another card would be better.
 
leroyjenkens said:
Thanks for the reply, I'll check that out.

Yeah, I figured I'd have to spend a good amount of money to get decent mileage, but I thought I could just spend that money buying stuff I would normally buy anyway, like food and gas. And 10 miles per dollar spent seems pretty good to me.
That's what some folks do. I've heard of one person who pays their mortgage payment by credit card, as well as other expenses, but then pays off the charges at the end of the month. They get lots of miles for airline tickets at relatively low cost.

For business travelers, it makes sense, especially the club cards.
 
yeah, okay that might work over time although I don't like the $95 yearly charge. I have Amex and Discover and don't remember paying a fee that high. If you don't care about the miles then maybe another card would be better.
Yeah I don't like that either. There's another one I could get that's like 65$, but I was wondering if there were any without any yearly fees. I know they probably wouldn't get me as many miles. I saw one that was like 1 point per 20$ spent. I don't know how the conversion from points to miles goes, but if it's 1 to 1, that's pretty terrible.
How many miles per dollar spent do you get on your cards?
That's what some folks do. I've heard of one person who pays their mortgage payment by credit card, as well as other expenses, but then pays off the charges at the end of the month. They get lots of miles for airline tickets at relatively low cost.

For business travelers, it makes sense, especially the club cards.
That's what I would do. I've been doing that normally on my Vystar card, but I don't get any points or anything for using it. If I got a certain amount of miles per dollar spent, I'd just use that card to buy everything.
What are club cards?

Can you guys recommend any cards where there's either no fee or a small fee that gets decent miles per dollar spent?

Thanks.

Edit: I found a card called the Starwood preferred guest credit card, which gives me 25,000 points if I spend $5,000 in the first 6th months, which I would easily do if I used it to buy everything. This card has a $65 yearly fee after the first year, but I heard you can cancel these cards after you receive the points, and you get to keep the points to use to buy miles or stay at hotels or whatever, is that true?
 
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you also need to look at the fees too. how much do you soak you on a late payment? How much interest do they charge?...

I prefer more famous cards like Amex, Discover, Mastercard as they are accepted most everywhere. I also like the cash back feature as that is more flexible than miles.
 
you also need to look at the fees too. how much do you soak you on a late payment? How much interest do they charge?...
Interest is pretty high, but I've never made a late credit card payment. I usually pay it off 2 days after I use it. I would pay it off right when I get home from the store, but it doesn't let me.
I prefer more famous cards like Amex, Discover, Mastercard as they are accepted most everywhere. I also like the cash back feature as that is more flexible than miles.
Interesting. I hate to ask so many questions, but this is all new to me.
So with the cards you have, you just use them to buy normal every day things and you get a 1:1 dollar to point ratio, which translates to a 1:1 point to mile ratio if used for air travel? And what is the cash back feature?
Thanks.
 
Just a couple of questions for anyone who knows. Are there any online bill paying services that allow me to use a credit card that don't charge? I tried my bank, but they only allow me to use their credit cards.

And my other question is is there a card that gives better than a 1:1 ratio of dollars spent to airline miles?

Thanks.

Edit: I'm a little confused. When you get airline miles from using these cards, do you actually get to travel that many miles? Because I'm reading something that makes it seem like "miles" is misleading.
 
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