Force between two charged particles at a distance question, help please?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two electrically charged objects placed a certain distance apart and the forces they exert on each other. The original poster is trying to determine the new distance required for the force to decrease from 8 N to 1 N, while also seeking to find the charge on the particles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the distance and force using Coulomb's law, expressing uncertainty about their calculations. They question how to find the charge once the distance is established.
  • Some participants suggest considering the constant in Coulomb's law and emphasize careful unit handling. They also propose using one of the distances to solve for charge directly.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing guidance on how to approach the calculations. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the steps to take, with some participants confirming the original poster's reasoning while others suggest alternative methods.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on ensuring correct unit conversions and the inclusion of Coulomb's constant in the calculations. The original poster expresses confusion about the charge calculation, indicating a need for clarification on the application of the formula.

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Homework Statement



Two small electrically charged objects are placed 6 centimeters (cm) apart, where they exert a force of 8 N on each other. How far apart must they be placed in order to exert a force of 1 N on each other? Assuming that the charges on the two objects are equal, what is the charge?

Homework Equations



F = q1 x q2 / d^2

The Attempt at a Solution



This questions seems to be simple to me, yet, I don't know why I'm so stuck...so...here is my reasoning:

If at 6 cm, the force = 8N and we want to find out what the distance between the charged particles is when the force between them is 1N...I'm assuming that they would have to be further apart so the force between them decreases by a magnitude of 8 times...and since the force weakens as the distance between the particles is squared then: square root of 8 = 2.82 x 6 cm = 16.97 cm? (I'm not sure if that is correct) and then to find the charge on the particles...I'm at a loss...but assume that if the above calculation is correct; I could substitute the values into the equation and clear for q^2? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
 
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kirsten_2009 said:
F = q1 x q2 / d^2
Don't forget the constant k (Coulomb's constant).

kirsten_2009 said:
If at 6 cm, the force = 8N and we want to find out what the distance between the charged particles is when the force between them is 1N...I'm assuming that they would have to be further apart so the force between them decreases by a magnitude of 8 times...and since the force weakens as the distance between the particles is squared then: square root of 8 = 2.82 x 6 cm = 16.97 cm? (I'm not sure if that is correct)
Good!

kirsten_2009 said:
and then to find the charge on the particles...I'm at a loss...but assume that if the above calculation is correct; I could substitute the values into the equation and clear for q^2?
This problem has nothing really to do with the first part. Just pick one of the distances, plug the given data into Coulomb's law, and solve for the charge. Careful with units! And don't forget that constant.
 
Hello Doc Al,

Thanks for your reply and help...so...would this be correct?

F=9x10^9 * q1 x q2 / d^2
1N=9x10^9 * q^2 / 0.1697m^2
q=√0.0288m x 1N / 9x10^9
q=1.78 x 10^-6 Coulombs

Thanks so much!
 
kirsten_2009 said:
Hello Doc Al,

Thanks for your reply and help...so...would this be correct?

F=9x10^9 * q1 x q2 / d^2
1N=9x10^9 * q^2 / 0.1697m^2
q=√0.0288m x 1N / 9x10^9
q=1.78 x 10^-6 Coulombs
Looks good!
 

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