Force on a point charge due to constant sphere surface charge density.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force exerted by a uniformly charged sphere with surface charge density \(\sigma\) on a point charge \(q\) located along the z-axis. For points where \(z > a\), the force is given by \(\vec{F} = \frac{q\sigma\hat{z}}{\epsilon_{0}z^{2}}\). The participants clarify the integration process for determining the force for \(z < a\) and emphasize the importance of Gauss's Law in simplifying the calculations. The total charge \(Q'\) on the sphere is derived from the surface charge density and the sphere's surface area.

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Homework Statement


The surface of a sphere of radius a is charged with a constant surface density [tex]\sigma[/tex]. What is the total charge Q' on the sphere? Find the force produced by this charge distribution on a point charge q located on the z axis for z > a and for z < a.

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The Attempt at a Solution


For z>a, I found [tex]\vec{F}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{\normalsizeq\sigma\hat{z}}{\epsilon_{0}z^{2}}[/tex]

Now, during my calculations, there was one point where I evaluated the integral for [tex]\normalsize\vartheta[/tex] to be [tex]\normalsize\frac{1}{z}\left(\frac{z-r^{'}}{\left(z^{2}-r^{'}^{2}-2zr^{'}\right)^{1/2}+\frac{z+r^{'}}{\left(z^{2}+r^{'}^{2}+2zr^{'}\right)}[/tex]

My thinking is that when I simplify the fractions, I obtain |z-r| and |z+r| in the denominator if I want the positive square root, which is the z > a case. So would the z<a case simply mean the square roots would have negative signs out, ie -|z-r| and |z+r| (z+r is stil positive).

Edit: My latex syntax is messed up. But basically I got (z-r') / (z^2+r'^2-2zr')^(1/2) + (z+r')/(z^2+r'^2+2zr')^(1/2)
 
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Kizaru said:

The Attempt at a Solution


For z>a, I found [tex]\vec{F}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{\normalsizeq\sigma\hat{z}}{\epsilon_{0}z^{2}}[/tex]

Hmmm... isn't there a [itex]q[/itex] missing from this expression?:wink:...and [itex]\sigma[/itex] is a charge density, not a charge...so the units on this aren't quite right!

What did you get for the total charge on the sphere?

Now, during my calculations, there was one point where I evaluated the integral for [itex]\theta[/itex] to be

[tex]\frac{1}{z}\left[\frac{z-r'}{\left(z^{2}-r'^{2}-2zr'\right)^{1/2}}+\frac{z+r'}{\left(z^{2}+r'^{2}+2zr' \right)^{1/2}}\right][/tex]

My thinking is that when I simplify the fractions, I obtain |z-r| and |z+r| in the denominator if I want the positive square root, which is the z > a case. So would the z<a case simply mean the square roots would have negative signs out, ie -|z-r| and |z+r| (z+r is stil positive).

(I fixed your [itex]\LaTeX[/itex]...just click on the images to see the code I used)

First, aren't you integrating over [itex]r'[/itex]?...It shouldn't be present in your final result!

Second,

[tex]|z\pm a|=\left\{\begin{array}{lr}z\pm a &, z\geq \mp a\\a\pm z &, z<\mp a\end{array}\right.[/tex]

Third, if you've learned Gauss's Law, a clever choice of Gaussian Surface would have allowed you to avoid integrating entirely!:wink:
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Hmmm... isn't there a [itex]q[/itex] missing from this expression?:wink:...and [itex]\sigma[/itex] is a charge density, not a charge...so the units on this aren't quite right!

What did you get for the total charge on the sphere?



(I fixed your [itex]\LaTeX[/itex]...just click on the images to see the code I used)

First, aren't you integrating over [itex]r'[/itex]?...It shouldn't be present in your final result!

Second,

[tex]|z\pm a|=\left\{\begin{array}{lr}z\pm a &, z\geq \mp a\\a\pm z &, z<\mp a\end{array}\right.[/tex]

Third, if you've learned Gauss's Law, a clever choice of Gaussian Surface would have allowed you to avoid integrating entirely!:wink:
Yes, I did forget a q in my answer for z > a.

The sphere charge density is on the surface, so I would be integrating over the surface area of the sphere (r is constant), correct?

We're learning Gauss' Law in the next chapter, which is why the tedious integral was carried out here.


Thanks for confirming my thoughts on where the z < a would come into play in the integral :)
 

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