Force Problem: force direction and choice of sign for g

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem concerning the calculation of gravitational force acting on an object, specifically a ball with a mass of 40g. The participants are exploring the implications of sign conventions in the context of force and acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether a negative result for force indicates a negative force or if the sign of gravitational acceleration should be adjusted. There is also a discussion about the significance of the choice of reference frame and how it affects the signs of vector quantities.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the choice of reference frame and its impact on the sign of gravitational force. There is an ongoing exploration of how to consistently apply these conventions in calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of defining "up" and "down" in their calculations, as well as the necessity to adhere to the chosen convention throughout the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement

The Force applied to an object is equal its mass times its acceleration Assume that the ball has a mass of 40g. What is the force due to gravity acting on the ball?

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



F=(.04)(-9.81)

I get a negative answer, does that mean that the force is negative? or should I change -9.81 to 9.81?
 
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unknown physicist said:
I get a negative answer, does that mean that the force is negative? or should I change -9.81 to 9.81?

Why do you think it matters?
 
PeroK said:
Why do you think it matters?
Because acceleration in the y dimension, is negative. It can't possibly be negative. So I think it should stay.
 
The choice of reference frame determines the signs of vector quantities measured in that reference frame. It's up to you to choose and specify a reference frame before beginning your calculations.

It's perfectly valid to choose "down" as being positive and "up" as negative if it is convenient for describing the problem that way. Of course, once you've made that choice you have to stick with the convention you've imposed.

Generally g is taken to be a positive constant and you tack on the required sign to suit your choice of reference frame when you write equations involving g.
 
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You choose up as positive. If you get a negative answer for the force that means it's acting downwards. Which way did you expect the force of gravity to act :-)
 

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