Force required to strip an M10 thread

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force required to strip the threads off an M10 x 1.5 metric thread made from mild steel, as part of a report for a college project on building a bench vice. Participants explore different modes of failure under tension, including the potential for plastic failure of the bolt core and the removal of the helical thread from the nut or bolt.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks information on the force required to strip M10 threads, noting a lack of imperial data online.
  • Another participant outlines two potential modes of failure: plastic failure of the bolt core and thread removal, providing calculations for tensile stress area and expected tensile strength of mild steel.
  • A participant proposes using the formula for shear stress to calculate the load required to strip the thread, questioning the shear strength value of mild steel.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the distinction between shearing across the bolt core, stretching the bolt core, and stripping threads, emphasizing the importance of bolt elasticity and clamping effect.
  • Disagreement arises over the shear strength of mild steel, with one participant suggesting a value of 80 kN/mm², while another corrects this to approximately 240 N/mm² based on standard calculations.
  • Calculations are presented for the thread removal from the bolt, leading to a conclusion that the nut length must be sufficient to avoid stripping before the bolt yields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the shear strength of mild steel and the implications for thread stripping versus bolt failure. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the appropriate shear strength value or the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions regarding material properties and failure modes, indicating that the calculations depend on specific definitions and standards that may not be universally agreed upon.

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Hi all,
im building a bench vice for college and I need to do a report on It also. the problem I am having is working out the force required to strip the threads off an M10 x 1.5 metric thread. both the thread and nut are to be made from mild steel. any info that I could find online has only imperial data.
if someone could please shed some light on this subject for me I would be highly obliged
Thanks
 
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Under tension there will be two potential modes of failure.
The mode that will occur first is dependent on the length of the nut.

1. Plastic failure of the bolt core.
An M10x1.5 bolt has an effective tensile stress area of 58mm2.
For mild steel expect 400 N/mm2
58mm * 400 N/mm2 = 23200. N

2. Removal of the helical thread from the nut or bolt.
The thread shear area along the pitch-line per millimetre of the bolt length M10x1.5 is 4.0mm2.
The standards for metal threads specify sufficient nut length.
 
many thanks that really helps me. so I would then use the formula shear stress= load/area? so in that case mild steel has a shear strength of 80kN/mm2. So the load required to strip the thread would be 80,000=load/(4xL) where L is length of the nut?

the object of the report is to prove that the nut length is sufficient enough to strip the threads rather that shear the bolt core.
 
nialltm1991 said:
the object of the report is to prove that the nut length is sufficient enough to strip the threads rather that shear the bolt core.
Now you have confused me.
To shear across the bolt core is a different thing to stretching the bolt core which is again different to stripping or shearing thread from the nut or bolt.

A bolt is not usually sheared across the core. It is used to hold two materials together so that friction prevents relative shear movement between those materials. If the bolt stretches and deforms plastically, then the clamping effect is lost and the bolt may then be cut across the core. We rely on the bolt remaining elastic and torque the nut to place the bolt at about 65% of its yield point.


nialltm1991 said:
so in that case mild steel has a shear strength of 80kN/mm2.
Where did you get that 80kN/mm2 from?
1 N/mm2 = 1,000,000. N/m2 = 1 MPa

In steel the shear yield strength is usually taken as 0.58 * the tensile yield strength.
Tensile strength of mild steel is usually 400 N/mm2, so shear strength will be about 240 N/mm2.

For thread removal from an ISO 10x1.5 MS bolt we have 4mm2 per mm of nut length.
which gives 4mm2 * 240 N/mm2 = 960. N per mm of nut length.

The bolt tensile strength was computed earlier as 23,200 N.
Then the thread in the nut must be 23,200 / 960 = 24.2 mm long to avoid stripping.
Since the nut is only about 10 mm long it is probably safe to assume the thread will strip before the bolt yields.
 
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