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A skier on a 4.7-degree incline starts with an initial speed of 2.7 m/s and a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.11. The skier's motion involves calculating the forces acting on them, including the horizontal component of gravity and kinetic friction. The initial calculation for acceleration was incorrectly determined as 8.67 m/s², but it should be -0.27 m/s² after correcting for calculation errors. Using the correct acceleration, the distance the skier slides before coming to rest is approximately 13 meters. Accurate calculations are crucial for determining the correct distance traveled.
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Homework Statement



A skier on a slope inclined at 4.7 degrees to the horizontal pushes on ski poles and starts down the slope. The initial speed is 2.7 m/s. The coefficient of kinetic friction between skis and snow is 0.11. Determine how far the skier will slide before coming to rest.


Homework Equations



uK= 0.11

v initial= 2.7 m/s
v final= 0.0 m/s

Fk = uK*Fnormal

F=ma

(v final)^2 = (v initial)^2 +2*a*d

The Attempt at a Solution



(Refer to system diagram for notations and stuff!)

So from what I can tell, the applied force is the horizontal component of gravity, Fgx, and the normal force is the vertical component of gravity, Fgy.

The horizontal component of gravity is:
Fgx= (sin4.7)(9.8)(m)

The force of kinetic friction would come out to be:
Fk=uK*Fgy
Fk=(0.11)(cos4.7)(9.8)(m)

The net force would be:
Fnet = Fapplied - Fkinetic
Fnet = Fgx - Fk
Fgx - Fk = m*a


So, solving, I get:

(sin4.7)(9.8)(m) - (0.11)(cos4.7)(9.8)(m) = m*a
a = 8.67 m/s^2


Now I can use acceleration to find the distance traveled by the skier:

(v final)^2 = (v initial)^2 +2*a*d
0 = (2.7)^2 +(2)(8.67)(d)
d= 0.42 m

The actual answer is 13m and I'm sure I've done something wrong :redface:.
Can someone guide me through this, please?
 

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shawli said:

Homework Statement



A skier on a slope inclined at 4.7 degrees to the horizontal pushes on ski poles and starts down the slope. The initial speed is 2.7 m/s. The coefficient of kinetic friction between skis and snow is 0.11. Determine how far the skier will slide before coming to rest.


Homework Equations



uK= 0.11

v initial= 2.7 m/s
v final= 0.0 m/s

Fk = uK*Fnormal

F=ma

(v final)^2 = (v initial)^2 +2*a*d

The Attempt at a Solution



(Refer to system diagram for notations and stuff!)

So from what I can tell, the applied force is the horizontal component of gravity, Fgx, and the normal force is the vertical component of gravity, Fgy.

The horizontal component of gravity is:
Fgx= (sin4.7)(9.8)(m)

The force of kinetic friction would come out to be:
Fk=uK*Fgy
Fk=(0.11)(cos4.7)(9.8)(m)

The net force would be:
Fnet = Fapplied - Fkinetic
Fnet = Fgx - Fk
Fgx - Fk = m*a


So, solving, I get:

(sin4.7)(9.8)(m) - (0.11)(cos4.7)(9.8)(m) = m*a
a = 8.67 m/s^2


Now I can use acceleration to find the distance traveled by the skier:

(v final)^2 = (v initial)^2 +2*a*d
0 = (2.7)^2 +(2)(8.67)(d)
d= 0.42 m

The actual answer is 13m and I'm sure I've done something wrong :redface:.
Can someone guide me through this, please?


CHECK YOUR CALCULATION FOR ACCELERATION. YOU SHOULD BE GETTING -0.27m/s^2.
 
shawli said:
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So, solving, I get:

(sin4.7)(9.8)(m) - (0.11)(cos4.7)(9.8)(m) = m*a
a = 8.67 m/s^2



You have some calculation error here. Be sure to do you calculations using degrees not radians.
 
Oooh, whoops. So my method was right all along?

Thank you !
 
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