Forces on a Window: 3 Suction Cups & Normal Force

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The discussion centers on understanding the forces acting on a window with three suction cups used for removal. Participants seek clarification on the normal force (Fn) and its relationship to the gravitational force (Fg) and friction forces. It is noted that the normal force is provided by the window jambs, and a side view of the setup may help visualize the forces better. The upward friction force is questioned regarding its ability to offset the downward gravitational force completely. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for a clearer diagram to accurately represent the forces involved.
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Homework Statement



Draw the forces on a window

The scenario is that I have 3 suction cups on the window to tale it down. And i don't know where the "normalforce" is. I forgot to draw the force of the suction cups

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Hi,

The suction cups must be located somewhere. Also, I find it hard to believe the Fn and Ff working lines in your sketch. Please elaborate ...
 
Does Fn hav to be opposite of Fg?
 
Opposite meaning working on the left pane if the other is working on the right pane ? Or do they grab along the same line ? Or are there more than one friction forces aat work ?

From the picture I can't see if the window is in static equilibrium or if it's crashing down with thunderous speed (probably the former :smile:)
 
It is not supposed to move. If I look out of my bedroom window there is a downward force (Fg) and a upward force which is the friction. The window has suction cups om the outside to try to remove the window. So there is also a force outside cus someones is pulling. So i am wondering where Fn is. It must be opposite of the pulling force right?
 
Sorry to have still more questions, but I can't form a complete picture yet:

which way is the someone outside pulling ? Can you post a more complete picture ? Is it sensible to also draw a side view, or are all forces verical ?
 
http://imgur.com/a/p9SU3
http://imgur.com/a/p9SU3

Here are the pictures. Fg is down and the friction force is up. Outside there are three things stuck on thw window so they can pull it out. So i am wondering where Fn is
 
Found a window picture:

window1-detail.jpg

If you pull on the suction cups in an outward direction, that is a horizontal force. The jambs provide the normal force . So a side view is indicated !

Friction force is up, you say. How do you know ? And is it offsetting Fg completely ?
 
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