Fourier cosine series of cos(x) from x=0 to Pi

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The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier cosine series for the function f(x) = cos(x) over the interval from 0 to π. Participants are exploring the implications of a half-range extension and the periodic nature of the cosine function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the coefficients a0 and an, with some expressing confusion over obtaining a result of zero for the series. There are mentions of using integration by parts and trigonometric identities to simplify the integrals involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using trigonometric identities to evaluate the integrals more easily. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the Fourier cosine series can yield a non-zero result, with multiple interpretations being considered regarding the periodicity of the function.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the area under the curve of cos(x) being zero over certain intervals, which may influence the results of the Fourier series. Participants are also considering the implications of the function being 2π-periodic.

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Homework Statement


Find the Fourier cosine series for f(x) = cos x, 0 < x < Pi

EDIT: I believe we are talking about a half-range extension..


Homework Equations


Fourier cosine series:
f(x) = a0/2 + Sum(n = 1 to infinity) (an * cos (nx))

where a0 = 2/L * integral (x = 0, x = L) (f(x) dx)

and an = 2/L * integral (x = 0, x = L) (f(x) * cos (n*Pi*x/L) dx)

Sorry if that's hard to understand...


The Attempt at a Solution



I graphed the function and extended the period to - Pi, i.e. -Pi < x < Pi

I found a0 = 2/Pi * integral (x = 0, x = L) (cos x dx) = 0
an = 2/Pi * integral (x = 0, x = L) (cos x * cos (nx) dx)
and evaluated the integral using IBP...

an = 2/Pi * (ncos(x)*sin (nx) - sin(x)cos(nx))*1/(n2-1)| x = 0, x = Pi
which gives me an = 0!

So the Fourier cosine series would be:
f(x) = 0

I would really appreciate any clarification as getting 0 for the series doesn't sound right..

Thank you in advance
 
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Hi alias99! :smile:
alias99 said:
I found a0 = 2/Pi * integral (x = 0, x = L) (cos x dx) = 0
an = 2/Pi * integral (x = 0, x = L) (cos x * cos (nx) dx)
and evaluated the integral using IBP...

an = 2/Pi * (ncos(x)*sin (nx) - sin(x)cos(nx))*1/(n2-1)| x = 0, x = Pi
which gives me an = 0!

Nooo … no need for IBP here (and it doesn't help anyway :redface:) …

learn your https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=18"

cosx cos(nx) = … ? :smile:
 
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Hi tiny-tim! :smile: (reminds me of the Nudie juices..hmm)
Thanks for your response ;)

You're right, I do need to learn my identities :-p

I can now evaluate the integral much easier (Lol... funny thing is I did manage to get a result by IBP.. it looked like it would have continued indefinetely but I got the original integral on the RHS, took it over to the LHS and made it the subject)

so now..

cosx cos(nx) = 1/2 (cos (x-nx) + cos (x+nx)) :smile: which can be integrated fairly easily

I still get 0! hehe.. I guess it is 0 after all. probably has something to do with cos(x) having an area under the curve of 0 between x = -Pi and x = Pi (or even x = 0 to Pi)

I'm probably going to state that the Fourier cosine series of cos (x) with a period of Pi is cos(x) .. or is it 0.. lol :-p

I'd appreciate just a word of confirmation, if you don't mind :)
 
Hi alias99! :smile:
alias99 said:
cosx cos(nx) = 1/2 (cos (x-nx) + cos (x+nx)) :smile: which can be integrated fairly easily

I still get 0! hehe.. I guess it is 0 after all. probably has something to do with cos(x) having an area under the curve of 0 between x = -Pi and x = Pi (or even x = 0 to Pi)

I'm probably going to state that the Fourier cosine series of cos (x) with a period of Pi is cos(x) .. or is it 0.. lol :-p

I'd appreciate just a word of confirmation, if you don't mind :)

Well, it seemed a strange question …
alias99 said:
Find the Fourier cosine series for f(x) = cos x, 0 < x < Pi
… if f is 2π-periodic, then yes obviously the only term in its Fourier cosine series is the first one, cosx.
 
Great! Thanks a lot tiny-tim :biggrin:
 
I also just tried to do this and it looks like this is pretty trivial if you try to get the exponential Fourier series instead? Because cosx can be written as e^jwt+e^-jwt
 

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