Fourier transform -- what physical variables am I allowed to transform between?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Fourier transform in physics, specifically focusing on the physical variables that can be transformed between different domains, such as momentum-space, position-space, frequency space, and wavenumber. Participants explore the conditions and implications of these transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that a common use of the Fourier transform is to transition between momentum-space and position-space.
  • Others mention that typically, one transforms between time-varying signals and temporal frequency, or spatially-varying signals and wavenumber.
  • A participant questions the utility of Fourier transforming certain functions, suggesting that while some transformations yield physically interesting results (e.g., sound signals), others (e.g., elevation data) may not be as informative.
  • There is a discussion about the requirement that the product of the chosen conjugate variables must be dimensionless.
  • Another participant emphasizes that for the functions sin(KL), cos(KL), exp(iKL), etc., to be evaluated, the product 'KL' must be a pure number.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the appropriateness and usefulness of transforming different pairs of physical variables. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which specific pairs are allowed and under what conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for certain mathematical properties, such as dimensional consistency, but do not reach a consensus on the broader implications of these transformations.

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A common use of the Fourier transform in physics is to transform between momentum-space and position-space. But what physical variables am I allowed to transform between? For instance can I use the Fourier transform to go from momentum space to frequency space or whatever?
 
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Usually, one transforms between a time-varying signal and a temporal frequency, or a spatially-varying signal and 'wavenumber' (equivalently, spatial frequency or angle).

Does that help?
 
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Andy Resnick said:
Usually, one transforms between a time-varying signal and a temporal frequency, or a spatially-varying signal and 'wavenumber' (equivalently, spatial frequency or angle).

Does that help?

But why? What pair of variables are allowed and why?
 
Higgsono said:
But why? What pair of variables are allowed and why?
A Fourier transform is a way of writing a given function as a sum of sinusoids, so I can Fourier transform just about any function that meets some minimal standards for well-behavedness. The interesting question is whether that's useful: do the sinusoids correspond to any physically interesting function? For example, Fourier transforming a sound signal tells me what frequencies have been superimposed to produce that signal... but Fourier transforming the elevation above sea level along a path is unlikely to tell me anything interesting (unless the topography happens to include some unusually evenly spaced and symmetrical hills, which would show up as a spike in the transform).
 
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Higgsono said:
But why? What pair of variables are allowed and why?

I'm not sure what you are getting at. For one thing, the product of whatever conjugate variables you choose (call them 'K' and 'L') must be dimensionless.
 
Andy Resnick said:
I'm not sure what you are getting at. For one thing, the product of whatever conjugate variables you choose (call them 'K' and 'L') must be dimensionless.

What about the dimensions? RHS should have the same dimension as the LHS?
 
Higgsono said:
What about the dimensions? RHS should have the same dimension as the LHS?

In order for the functions sin(KL), cos(KL), exp(iKL), etc. to be evaluated, 'KL' must be a pure number.
 

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