Freezing Water with a Reversed Steam Engine

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A reversed steam engine operating between 500°C and 200°C is analyzed for its ability to freeze a dozen compartments of water at room temperature into ice cubes. The required heat removal to freeze the water includes both the cooling to the freezing point and the heat of fusion. There is confusion regarding the input power of 300 W, with some participants questioning whether it represents work done or the heat output (QH). The calculations initially overlooked the need to multiply the heat required by the number of compartments. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying thermodynamic principles to solve the problem.
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The steam engine which operates between 500°C and 200°C is run in reverse. How long would it take to freeze a tray of a dozen 37 g compartments of liquid water at room temperature (20°C) into a dozen ice cubes at the freezing point, assuming that it takes 300 W of input electric power to run it? Assume ideal (Carnot) behavior.

The Q that is required to freeze the cube is (37/1000)kg*(4186J/K)(20K)+(37/1000)kg(3.33 x 10^5)

The coefficient of performance of ice is equal to TL/(TH - TL)=QL/(QH-QL), so pluging it the stuff, I get (200+273)/((500+273)-(200+273))= QL/ (300-QL), so I solved for QL and divide the Q needed to melt ice by QL. But my answer is wrong. Why? The 300W is QH, right? :cry:
 
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The Q that is required to freeze the cube is (37/1000)kg*(4186J/K)(20K)+(37/1000)kg(3.33 x 10^5)
First of all, it seems you forgot to multiply by 12, since the problem considers a dozen 37 gram compartments.

Then to freeze one has to reduce the temperature by 20°C and then remove the heat of fusion. It appears you have considered this.
 
physicsss said:
assuming that it takes 300 W of input electric power to run it? Assume ideal (Carnot) behavior.

Do you think this is W(work) or QH?
 
And thank you for pointing that out. :)
 
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