Friction between sled and rider

  • Thread starter Thread starter SillyYak
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Friction
AI Thread Summary
Ginny plans to ride a sled pulled by her dog, Foo, but is concerned about slipping off due to insufficient friction. The problem involves calculating the minimum mass Ginny needs to avoid slipping, based on the masses of the sled and herself, and the coefficients of static friction between the sled, her snow pants, and the snow. A misunderstanding arises regarding the normal forces acting on the sled, which include both the weight of the sled and Ginny. The discussion emphasizes the need to balance these forces to ensure stability while riding. Proper analysis of the forces and friction is crucial for determining the necessary conditions for Ginny to remain securely on the sled.
SillyYak

Homework Statement


Ginny has a plan. She is going to ride her sled while her dog Foo pulls her, and she holds on to his leash. However, Ginny hasn’t taken physics, so there may be a problem: she may slide right off the sled when Foo starts pulling.

The sled has mass m, and Ginny has mass M. The coefficient

of static friction between the sled and the snow is μ1, and μ2 is

the corresponding quantity for static friction between the sled and

her snow pants. Ginny must have a certain minimum mass so that

she will not slip off the sled. Find this in terms of the other three

variables.

i figure it would be M= m mu1/mu2 but the answer isn't being accepted, any help would be greatly appreciated

here was my logic Mgmu1= mgmu2 the g cancels out and you solve for big M, I am doing something wrong but don't know what, first time physics student here
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
SillyYak said:
Mgmu1= mgmu2
What is the normal force between the sled and the snow?
 
would it not be equaled to mg the sled and snow have a zero angle
 
SillyYak said:
would it not be equaled to mg the sled and snow have a zero angle
what are the vertical forces on the sled? Are they in balance?
 
yes i believe so, she is having her dog pull her on level ground, the is no vertical net forces
 
SillyYak said:
yes i believe so, she is having her dog pull her on level ground, the is no vertical net forces
I asked what they are.
 
its mg and n there's no values stated in the problem
 
SillyYak said:
its mg and n there's no values stated in the problem
I don't care about the values, I just wanted a descriptive list.
By "n" I assume you mean the normal force from the snow. What about the girl? Isn't she sitting on it?
 
Back
Top