Friction, tension, and acceleration combination problem

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The problem involves a scenario where an 85-kg man attempts to tow a 109,000-kg airplane by pulling on a cable at an angle of 9 degrees above the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the man's shoes and the runway is given as 0.77. The objective is to determine the greatest acceleration the man can impart to the airplane, considering the forces acting on both the man and the airplane.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on both the airplane and the man, including normal forces, tension components, and frictional forces. There are questions about the correctness of the net equations written for both the man and the airplane. Some participants express confusion regarding the relationship between tension and normal force, particularly whether tension contributes to the normal force.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the setup of their equations, and exploring the implications of tension on the normal force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of the frictional force and its dependence on the normal force. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the discussion is moving towards clarifying the relationships between the forces involved.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the correct formulation of the equations, particularly in how the tension affects the normal force and the resulting frictional force. Participants are also considering the implications of the airplane and man not leaving the ground on the acceleration in the y-direction.

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1. An 85-kg man plans to tow a 109000-kg
airplane along a runway by pulling horizontally on a cable attached
to it. Suppose that he instead attempts the feat by pulling the cable at
an angle of 9.00 above the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction
between his shoes and the runway is 0.77. What is the greatest acceleration
the man can give the airplane? Assume that the airplane is on
wheels that turn without any frictional resistance.


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MY ATTEMPT AT THE SOLUTION

Forces on Plane
Fn = Normal force
Weight = (mass of plane)(gravity) = 109000(9.8) = 1068200 N
Tx = x-component of tension in rope = Tcos(9)
Ty = y-component of tension in rope = Tsin(9)

Forces on Man
Fn = Normal force
Weight = (mass of man)(gravity) = 85(9.8) = 833 N
Fk = frictional force = (weight)(coefficient of friction) = (833)(0.77) = 641.41 N
Tx = x-component of tension in rope = -Tcos(9)
Ty = y-component of tension in rope = -Tsin(9)

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net equations for the plane
Fx = Tcos(9) = (Mass of plane)(x-component of acceleration)
Fy = Tsin(9) = (Mass of plane)(y-component of acceleartion)*********

net equations for the man
Fx = Fk - Tcos(9) = (Mass of man)(x-component of acceleration)
Fy = -Tsin(9) = (Mass of man)(y-component of acceleration)*********

From here, i think it is plug and chug to find tension. After I find tension, I can find both the x and y components of acceleration. I can then use Pythagorean theorem to find acceleration from the x and y components.My question is, have I written my net equations correctly? I think something is wrong because when I plug in T to the two starred equations above, I get two different answers for the y-component of acceleration...help? please?
 
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jehan4141 said:
1. An 85-kg man plans to tow a 109000-kg
airplane along a runway by pulling horizontally on a cable attached
to it. Suppose that he instead attempts the feat by pulling the cable at
an angle of 9.00 above the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction
between his shoes and the runway is 0.77. What is the greatest acceleration
the man can give the airplane? Assume that the airplane is on
wheels that turn without any frictional resistance.


_________________________________________________________________________



MY ATTEMPT AT THE SOLUTION

Forces on Plane
Fn = Normal force
Weight = (mass of plane)(gravity) = 109000(9.8) = 1068200 N
Tx = x-component of tension in rope = Tcos(9)
Ty = y-component of tension in rope = Tsin(9)

Forces on Man
Fn = Normal force
Weight = (mass of man)(gravity) = 85(9.8) = 833 N
Fk = frictional force = (weight)(coefficient of friction) = (833)(0.77) = 641.41 N
Tx = x-component of tension in rope = -Tcos(9)
Ty = y-component of tension in rope = -Tsin(9)

____________________________________________________________________________

net equations for the plane
Fx = Tcos(9) = (Mass of plane)(x-component of acceleration)
Fy = Tsin(9) = (Mass of plane)(y-component of acceleartion)*********

net equations for the man
Fx = Fk - Tcos(9) = (Mass of man)(x-component of acceleration)
Fy = -Tsin(9) = (Mass of man)(y-component of acceleration)*********

From here, i think it is plug and chug to find tension. After I find tension, I can find both the x and y components of acceleration. I can then use Pythagorean theorem to find acceleration from the x and y components.


My question is, have I written my net equations correctly? I think something is wrong because when I plug in T to the two starred equations above, I get two different answers for the y-component of acceleration...help? please?
If the plane and man do not leave the ground, is there any acceleration in the y direction?
And don't forget the Normal force in the y direction in your equations.

Note also that Fk is not weight times the friction coefficient, it is ? times the friction coefficient.
 
Fk is the normal force times the frictional coefficient...but I don't see how that changes anything...? :rolleyes::confused: Hmmm...Does the tension of rope contribute to the normal force? So that the normal force = mg + Tsin9? And thus Fk = 0.77[mg + Tsin9]
 
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jehan4141 said:
Fk is the normal force times the frictional coefficient...but I don't see how that changes anything...? :rolleyes::confused: Hmmm...Does the tension of rope contribute to the normal force? So that the normal force = mg + Tsin9?
Yes, on the man.
And thus Fk = 0.77[mg + Tsin9]
Yes, very good. Now continue... (sorry for delayed response, I fell asleep:zzz:
 
AWESOME! THANK YOU SO MUCH, Phanthomjay...ur my physicss superman hahaha
 

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