Function for (damped) SHM as a linear combination of two exponentials

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the damped simple harmonic motion (SHM) equation and the transition from the general solution to a specific form involving arbitrary constants. The equation derived is m\ddot{x}=-\frac{s}{m}x-r\dot{x}, leading to a solution expressed as x=Ae^{-pt}(C_{1}e^{qt}+C_{2}e^{-qt}). Participants clarify that the linear combination of distinct solutions is valid for linear equations, including differential ones. The confusion about the transition to the final solution form is addressed, emphasizing that any linear combination of solutions remains a solution. Additionally, a technical issue with LaTeX formatting in the forum is noted, suggesting refreshing the page to resolve it.
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So, in lectures we derived the equation for damped SHM by solving the differential equation relating position (x), mass (m), spring constant (s), and damping coefficient (r):

m\ddot{x}=-\frac{s}{m}x-r\dot{x}

Using a solution of the form Ae^{\alpha t}, we find that:

x=Ae^{-pt}e^{\pm qt},

where p=\frac{r}{2m}, and q=\sqrt{p^{2}-\frac{s}{m}}.

Everything until and including this I understand. However, the final step, with no explanation, turns the solution into the following:

e^{-pt}(C_{1}e^{qt}+C_{2}e^{-qt}),

where C1 and C2 are some arbitrary constants. (i.e. a linear combination of the two distinct solutions.) In trying to research this online, I found an article that mentions the solution holds true for all complex values of C1 and C2. I don't understand how, algebraically, you can go from the previous step to the last one. Somebody help me out?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I don't know why the closing bracket doesn't show up in the last equation, but it should be there. (EDIT: Nevermind, it works now.)
 
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It is true that if f(x) and g(x) are distinct solutions of a linear equation then their sum is also a solution as is any arbitrary linear combination of them.

Note this is true of any linear equation, not only differential ones.

In your penultimate line you have two distinct functions obtained by taking either the = or the - sign in

{e^{ \pm qx}}

Does this help?

You also thought that there was a problem whilst composing and using the preview. This is a problem that PF has with Latex where the preview does not rflect changes. You can cure it by refreshing the whole page or quitting the thread and reacquiring it.

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