Fundamental Theorem of Calculus Pt 2, multivariable integration?

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The discussion revolves around the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, specifically its application in multivariable integration. Participants are exploring the relationship between derivatives and integrals, particularly in the context of a function defined by an integral.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of an integral function and the implications of using different variables. Questions arise about the necessity of the chain rule and the interpretation of variables within the context of the problem.

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Some participants have provided insights into the application of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, noting that the derivative of the integral function relates directly to the original function. There is ongoing exploration of the second derivative and its relationship to the first derivative of the original function.

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Participants express uncertainty about the roles of variables and functions in the problem, questioning whether certain variables are independent or dependent. There is mention of a specific value to evaluate, but the overall context remains focused on understanding the theoretical underpinnings rather than arriving at a final solution.

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I can get f'(x) as sqrt(1 + (sinx)^2) and derive that to get the second derivative but as far as that I don't really get the concept behind this question

will y be another function I have to use chain rule with?
or is it just a variable and I plug in pi/6 normally?
 

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mleeno said:

Homework Statement



problem in attachment

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I can get f'(x) as sqrt(1 + (sinx)^2) and derive that to get the second derivative but as far as that I don't really get the concept behind this question

will y be another function I have to use chain rule with?
or is it just a variable and I plug in pi/6 normally?

What is [itex]\displaystyle \frac{d}{dy}g(y)\,?[/itex]
 
SammyS said:
What is [itex]\displaystyle \frac{d}{dy}g(y)\,?[/itex]

g'(y) = f(y) ?
g'(y) = f(y)y'

I think I'm thinking about this too hard...
 
mleeno said:
g'(y) = f(y) ?
g'(y) = f(y)y'

I think I'm thinking about this too hard...
I intended to show the image of your problem in my previous post.

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By the Fund. Thm. of Calc., Pt. 2: g'(y) = f(y). What you use for the independent variable is unimportant, so [itex]g'(x)=f(x)\,.[/itex]

Then what is [itex]g''(x)\,?[/itex]

BTW: Welcome to PF !
 
[itex]g(y)= \int_3^y f(x)dx[/itex] is NOT a multiple variable function, it is a function of the single variable y.

The "fundamental theorem of Calculus" says that g'(y)= f(y). The second derivative of g is simply the first derivative of f.

[itex]f(u)= \int_0^u\sqrt{1+ t^2}dt[/itex] where [itex]u= sin(x)[/itex]. Now apply both the fundamental theorem of Calculus and the chain rule.
 
AH so

simply f'(pi/6) = g''(pi/6)

thanks for the help everyone.

I got something like

f'(x) = (cosx)sqrt(1 + (sinx)^2)

plugging in f'(pi/6) = cos(pi/6)sqrt(1 + (sin(pi/6)^2))

which should be [sqrt(3)/2]*sqrt(5/4) ?
 

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