Gaining Weight: A Biochemical Perspective

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of gaining weight and how it is affected by food intake and physical activity. The speakers mention that tracking calories in versus calories out is a more reliable way to change body composition than tracking food and excretion mass. They also mention that weight can fluctuate throughout the day due to factors like water intake and sweating. They also discuss the role of calories in weight gain and the idea that they can be converted to mass through certain ingredients.
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Gerenuk
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I thought about what gaining weight means. Isn't the following (obviously) correct?

When you eat X grammes of something you momentarily gain X grammes of weight. The only way to lose weight is to go to the toilet or sweat. However, when you sweat most of the mass is water so this is easily calculable.

Now it's probably quite doable to calculate which part of the food mass stay in the body after the first digestion cycle. The rest is weight gain. Unless it is decomposed again and "flushed" away.

Does that makes sense? Have I missed something? It seems more direct than calorie thinking.
Shouldn't it be easy to directly calculate the mass you lose when you exercise? Like this biochemical process will transform mass into waste mass.
 
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Gerenuk said:
I thought about what gaining weight means. Isn't the following (obviously) correct?

When you eat X grammes of something you momentarily gain X grammes of weight. The only way to lose weight is to go to the toilet or sweat. However, when you sweat most of the mass is water so this is easily calculable.

Now it's probably quite doable to calculate which part of the food mass stay in the body after the first digestion cycle. The rest is weight gain. Unless it is decomposed again and "flushed" away.

Does that makes sense? Have I missed something? It seems more direct than calorie thinking.
Shouldn't it be easy to directly calculate the mass you lose when you exercise? Like this biochemical process will transform mass into waste mass.
How much the food weighs has nothing to do with storing excess calories (turning them into fat) and gaining weight. The weight of food is not a consideration. This is why you should weigh yourself in the morning, after you have a bowel movement, preferably. This will give you your most consistently accurate weight. Of course during the day your weight goes up and down slightly as your body removes solid and liquid waste that you've consumed.
 
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Gaining weight is very simple, it is simply an increase in weight. So yes if I ingest a dinner then I am heavier. In the context of medicine gaining weight is looked at over time to smooth out the anomalies like this, there's little need to try and work out the exact percentage gained from each meal. And remember calories are a very sloppy way of measuring things like this because they are only a measure of the energy given off by food when it is literally burnt. They say nothing about metabolism.
 
  • #4
LOL, I do have the English Bible of Food knowledge from 1902.

According to Frankland, i Ib. of oatmeal, when digested and
oxidized in the body, might liberate force equal to 2,439 tons
raised i ft. high. The greatest amount of external work which it
could enable a man to perform is 488 tons raised i ft. high. It
is, however, probable that the sample which was used in this
experimental trial was decidedly inferior to fine Scotch oatmeal,
the composition of which is given above.

http://www.archive.org/stream/foodsomeaccounto00churrich/foodsomeaccounto00churrich_djvu.txt

This makes calories seem so much simpler. :biggrin:
 
  • #5
Gerenuk said:
I thought about what gaining weight means. Isn't the following (obviously) correct?

When you eat X grammes of something you momentarily gain X grammes of weight. The only way to lose weight is to go to the toilet or sweat. However, when you sweat most of the mass is water so this is easily calculable.

Now it's probably quite doable to calculate which part of the food mass stay in the body after the first digestion cycle. The rest is weight gain. Unless it is decomposed again and "flushed" away.

Does that makes sense? Have I missed something? It seems more direct than calorie thinking.
Shouldn't it be easy to directly calculate the mass you lose when you exercise? Like this biochemical process will transform mass into waste mass.

if you're trying to change the amount of tissue you carry (fat/muscle/etc), you'll get a lot better results if you track calories in versus calories out. that is, how much you eat in calories versus how much you expend in activities as calories. food and excretion mass is not a very reliable way, as much of food is water mass, and good luck tracking something as variable as how much water you lose in sweat and breathing. as mentioned above, just track a moving average of your morning weight and focus on that trend, as well as your measurements and visual results (assuming you aren't body-dysmorphic).
 
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weight gain is only happen when you eat more calories and burn less calories. The difference of these result is weight gain. And when you do some work out there are increase in body weight. It is true that body weight increase and decrease in a day with the increase in working routine. Total weight gain is the equal of calories and body work out in a day.
 
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thomasmite said:
weight gain is only happen when you eat more calories and burn less calories. The difference of these result is weight gain. And when you do some work out there are increase in body weight. It is true that body weight increase and decrease in a day with the increase in working routine. Total weight gain is the equal of calories and body work out in a day.
That's only a rule of thumb and here I wanted to encourage deeper self-thinking.
Physically you only gain weight if you eat something. Obviously, drinking 1l of water makes you weight increase by 1kg. Try it out yourself!
Burning calories does absolutely nothing until you lose mass by exhaling, sweating or visiting the bath room. And work out only transforms mass and does nothing to your weight until you notice that some mass you ate is not going to be "emitted" again due to being bound in muscles.
Calories have no mass. However, you can probably convert them to mass by assuming that calorie intake corresponds to a particular type of ingredient.

So my question is basically to understand the process of gaining weight from the fundamentals and identify where most weight is lost (breathing, sweating, toilet).
 

1. What are the main factors that contribute to weight gain?

The main factors that contribute to weight gain are an imbalance between calorie intake and expenditure, genetics, hormones, and certain medical conditions.

2. How does calorie intake affect weight gain?

Calorie intake refers to the amount of energy that a person consumes through food and drinks. When the calorie intake exceeds the body's energy needs, the excess energy is stored as fat, leading to weight gain.

3. What role do hormones play in weight gain?

Hormones, such as insulin, leptin, and ghrelin, play a crucial role in regulating appetite and metabolism. Imbalances in these hormones can lead to increased food cravings and a slower metabolism, which can contribute to weight gain.

4. Can genetics influence weight gain?

Yes, genetics can play a role in weight gain. Some people may have a genetic predisposition to storing more fat or having a slower metabolism, making it easier for them to gain weight. However, lifestyle factors, such as diet and exercise, still play a significant role in weight management.

5. Are there any biochemical pathways that contribute to weight gain?

Yes, there are several biochemical pathways involved in weight gain. These include the storage and breakdown of fat, the regulation of appetite and metabolism, and the conversion of food into energy. Disruptions in these pathways can lead to weight gain.

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