Gender Segregation in Engineering Colleges - YouTube

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The discussion critiques a video that portrays gender separation rules in educational institutions as a form of panic journalism, arguing that it sensationalizes the issue without addressing the broader context of true sexism found in other cultures. Participants express concern over the unfairness of students being punished for interacting with the opposite sex, while acknowledging that these rules were known prior to enrollment. The conversation highlights the intense competition for university admission, which limits students' choices and exacerbates parental pressure. There is a consensus that while the rules may seem unfair, they are subjective and not the worst globally. Ultimately, there is a call for reevaluating the accreditation of institutions that enforce such policies.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVrHW2suW2A&eur

A couple of my former high school classmates currently in those "engineering colleges" confirm that the content of the video is sadly accurate.
 
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Too right as well girls are a distraction and their icky too as well I'm told. :smile:
 
That video is an example of panic journalism. Use emotionally charged words and dramatic music, and they'll have you thinking that a million orphans are being slaughtered. Instead, they're simply reporting on archaic gender separation rules, not even trying to hide their journalistic bias.

"A double standard refers to the treatment of one classification of people differently than other groups of people." They did not report on a double standard. The rules apply to males as much as to females.

I hate to say it, but there are places around the world with a true double standard, where sexism is the norm of the culture. Think it's unfair that males can't talk to females and must use their own staircase, and vice versa? Try living somewhere where woman aren't allowed to go to college period, cannot be seen in public without a male relative as an escort, aren't allowed to drive, can't show any skin or hair, and have truly segregated public buildings, and are murdered for the slightest infraction (or perceived infraction). That's something to be outraged out.
 
Laura1013 said:
That video is an example of panic journalism. Use emotionally charged words and dramatic music, and they'll have you thinking that a million orphans are being slaughtered. Instead, they're simply reporting on archaic gender separation rules, not even trying to hide their journalistic bias.

"A double standard refers to the treatment of one classification of people differently than other groups of people." They did not report on a double standard. The rules apply to males as much as to females.

I agree that the phrase "double standard" was used out of context, and the report indulged in sensationalism, but panic journalism is better than no journalism.

I hate to say it, but there are places around the world with a true double standard, where sexism is the norm of the culture. Think it's unfair that males can't talk to females and must use their own staircase, and vice versa?

I think it is definitely unfair that students are segregated, fined, punished in public and suspended just for talking to members of the opposite sex.

Try living somewhere where woman aren't allowed to go to college period, cannot be seen in public without a male relative as an escort, aren't allowed to drive, can't show any skin or hair, and have truly segregated public buildings, and are murdered for the slightest infraction (or perceived infraction). That's something to be outraged out.

Of course. The insane laws in such places are based on extreme (usually religious) ideologies.

But that wasn't meant to be the topic of this thread. I live in the city where these universities are, and some of my friends study there. I find it sad that the educational institutions are able to get away with such crazy laws.
 
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I think it is definitely unfair that students are segregated, fined, punished in public and suspended just for talking to members of the opposite sex.


Oh, I agree, it's unfair, and personally, I wouldn't stand for it. But to be fair to the institutions, those students knew the rules before the enrolled, and are free to leave if they don't like them (parental pressures aside). I was pointing out that "unfair" is subjective, and there are far worse rules out there.
 
Laura1013 said:
Oh, I agree, it's unfair, and personally, I wouldn't stand for it. But to be fair to the institutions, those students knew the rules before the enrolled, and are free to leave if they don't like them (parental pressures aside).

Unfortunately, the major problem lies there. The admission procedure to all universities in the state is through a common entrance test for all students in the state. Since these universities are located in a major city, there's intense competition for limited seats, and students usually don't have freedom in choosing better universities. Besides, there's also quite a bit of parental pressure.

See here for a deeper discussion of this issue.
http://nanopolitan.blogspot.com/2006/01/rules-discipline-decorum.html

I was pointing out that "unfair" is subjective, and there are far worse rules out there.

Sure, but that doesn't make this "right".

My major objection is that these educational institutions shouldn't get government accreditation in the first place.
 

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