Getting the breath knocked out of you

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of getting the breath knocked out of you, exploring why it occurs more frequently in children compared to adults, the physiological mechanisms involved, and the potential dangers associated with it.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the increased incidence in children is due to their higher activity levels or if there is a physiological reason behind it.
  • Another participant references a Wikipedia article suggesting that the condition may involve a temporary paralysis of the diaphragm, questioning if this is akin to a cramp.
  • A participant shares personal experiences of being unable to breathe after physical impacts, noting the duration of breathlessness and the gradual return to normal breathing.
  • One contributor reflects on their own experience of getting the wind knocked out during childhood, attributing it to the more active nature of kids.
  • Another participant suggests that panic during the first experience of this phenomenon may exacerbate the situation, while subsequent occurrences may lead to quicker recovery due to prior experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that children are more prone to this phenomenon, but the reasons behind it remain contested. There is no consensus on the physiological mechanisms or the potential for serious consequences.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various personal experiences and refer to external sources, but there are unresolved questions regarding the exact physiological processes and the implications of prolonged breathlessness.

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A few questions about getting the wind knocked out of you.

How come this happens to kids more than adults? Is it just that kids are so much more active, or is there a physiological reason?

So I read that it's a temporary paralysis of the diaphragm muscle (wiki). Is this the same as a cramp?

Can a person die from it?
 
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The Wiki article on wind knocked out - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_the_wind_knocked_out_of_you

Cramp - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cramp
http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/muscle-cramps

If one is deprived of oxygen for a long enough period, then one would become unconcious, and if long enough perhaps cardiac arrest would occur.

I've had two events where I was unable to breath for short period, one when I was about 19 and fell out of boxcar and hit the edge of the loading dock with my ribcage (only broke one rib but didn't puncture the chest wall), and the second when I was about 44 or so, and hit the ground sideways after falling out of a tree. Both times it took about a minute of so before I could breath again - and it was light short intakes at first.
 
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Thanks for the links, Astronuc.

The only time I remember this happening to me, I was in 5th or 6th grade and a classmate hit me in the middle of the abdomen. It's pretty disconcerting not to be able to breath!

As an adult I haven't encountered people who try to hit me :smile:, so I'd agree that it's the more active nature of kids that makes this more common with them.
 
I think the first time it happens (especially at a younger age) panic results - and makes it worse. Each time it happens afterward, you have experience to draw on for a faster recovery.
 

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