Global diffeomorphism with tangent bundle

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The discussion revolves around the concept of trivial tangent bundles in differential geometry, specifically addressing the conditions under which tangent bundles are trivial or non-trivial. Participants explore examples, definitions, and methods for demonstrating triviality, with a focus on geometric reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about showing that the tangent bundle Tℝⁿ is diffeomorphic to ℝ²ⁿ, noting that local diffeomorphism is easy but global trivialization is unclear.
  • Another participant suggests using global coordinates to define natural global coordinates for the tangent bundle, which would lead to a global trivialization.
  • A different participant proposes that to show the tangent bundle on TS¹ is trivial, one should find an atlas for the bundle and demonstrate that coordinate charts are locally diffeomorphic to S¹ × ℝ, while questioning if additional steps are needed.
  • One participant states that to prove the triviality of the tangent bundle of an n-dimensional manifold, it is sufficient to find n linearly independent vector fields at every point, noting that for the circle, one nowhere vanishing vector field suffices.
  • Another participant corrects the claim that a single vector field without zeros implies triviality, stating that this is only true for oriented surfaces and 1-manifolds, using the Klein bottle as a counterexample.
  • Further clarification is provided that n linearly independent vector fields are necessary for triviality, and a reference is made to an exercise regarding the conditions for triviality of n-dimensional vector bundles.
  • One participant emphasizes that for oriented surfaces, a single non-zero vector field is sufficient due to the orientation providing additional structure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for triviality of tangent bundles, particularly regarding the sufficiency of a single vector field without zeros. There is no consensus on the implications of these conditions, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the definitions and conditions for triviality may depend on the dimensionality and orientation of the manifold in question. The discussion highlights the complexity of proving triviality and the need for multiple linearly independent vector fields in higher dimensions.

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I am terribly confused on the issue of trivial tangent bundles. I understand intuitively why some tangent bundles are trivial and others are not, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to show it.

Even the most trivial example, show that T\mathbb{R}^n is diffeomorphic to \mathbb{R}^{2n} I am not seeing how to show. Showing that they are locally diffeomorphic is very easy, but every tangent bundle is locally diffeomorphic to the product space of the manifold with the appropriate Euclidean space. I am new to this topic so a geometrical route is preferred. For example, I know that if there exists a vector field with no zero vectors then the tangent bundle is trivial, but I don't know how to show why that is true, so that result does not help me.

Thanks!
 
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has global coordinates. Use them to define natural global coordinates for the tangent bundle. Then notice that they define a global trivialization.
 
Thanks, that gave me an idea. So, if I want to show that the tangent bundle on TS^1 is trivial, should I just find an atlas for the bundle, show that the coordinate charts are locally diffeomorphic to S^1 \times \mathbb{R}, and then show that the transition functions between the coordinate charts are smooth? I feel like that must still be missing a step somewhere, since the transition functions are smooth by definition.
 
To prove that the tangent bundle of an n-dimensional manifold is trivial (and to find its trivialization) it is enough to find n vector fields that are linearly independent at every point. For the circle it is enough to find just one nowhere vanishing vector field (which should be easy).

Once you convince yourself that this is the case - it will help you in the future.
 
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Monocles said:
I am terribly confused on the issue of trivial tangent bundles. I understand intuitively why some tangent bundles are trivial and others are not, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to show it.

Even the most trivial example, show that T\mathbb{R}^n is diffeomorphic to \mathbb{R}^{2n} I am not seeing how to show. Showing that they are locally diffeomorphic is very easy, but every tangent bundle is locally diffeomorphic to the product space of the manifold with the appropriate Euclidean space. I am new to this topic so a geometrical route is preferred. For example, I know that if there exists a vector field with no zero vectors then the tangent bundle is trivial, but I don't know how to show why that is true, so that result does not help me.

Thanks!

It is not true that a single vector field without zeros means that the tangent bundle is trivial. This is only true for oriented surfaces and for 1 manifolds like the circle. For instance the Klein bottle has a non-zero vector field but it's tangent bundle is not trivial.

I think that triviality formally means that there is a homeomorphism from the vector bundle into BxF ,where B is the base space of the bundle and F is a vector space, that is linear on each fiber and covers the identity map on B.
 
lavinia said:
It is not true that a single vector field without zeros means that the tangent bundle is trivial.

Of course. You need, as I wrote, n linearly independent vector fields.

This is only true for oriented surfaces and for 1 manifolds like the circle. For instance the Klein bottle has a non-zero vector field but it's tangent bundle is not trivial.

Of course, because Klein's bottle is not 1-dimensional.
A simple and useful http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~womp/2001/vbex.pdf" :

Exercise 3. Show that an n-dimensional vector bundle E -> M is trivial if and only if there are n sections s1,..., sn which, in each fiber, are linearly independent. Show that all bundles have local systems of n linearly independent sections.​
 
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arkajad said:
Of course. You need, as I wrote, n linearly independent vector fields.
Of course, because Klein's bottle is not 1-dimensional.
A simple and useful http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~womp/2001/vbex.pdf" :

Exercise 3. Show that an n-dimensional vector bundle E -> M is trivial if and only if there are n sections s1,..., sn which, in each fiber, are linearly independent. Show that all bundles have local systems of n linearly independent sections.​

I was just responding to the direct words of the writer and giving an example - not disagreeing with you or for that matter not not understanding the definition of trivial. Perhaps you can explain what you are getting at.

BTW: For an oriented surface (Riemannian manifold) it suffices to have a single non-zero vector field. The orientation provides the other.
 
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lavinia said:
BTW: For an oriented surface (Riemannian manifold) it suffices to have a single non-zero vector field. The orientation provides the other.

Right.
 

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