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GR and the higgs field

  1. Dec 26, 2004 #1
    If the higgs feild is responsible for giving particles their mass, isn't it then the higgs field that is responsible for the effects of GR?
    Is this assesment true and, if so, does it have any implecations? Could the higgs field (which has been described as an ether) and spacetime be in some way linked more deeply?
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2004
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  3. Dec 27, 2004 #2
    No-one brave enough to take this on? ok

    Well, I'll expand on it for the hell of it.

    -Energy doesn't effect spacetime in the same way mass does. (its the defining difference between the two)
    -Mass is only produced by the higgs field
    -without the higgs field, there would be no gravity. (inflation theory relies on this)

    Isn't it reasonable to assume that gravity is then caused by the higgs field and not directly by the particle.

    But this assumption brings up other problems. The higgs field is supposed to be like an ether, it exists everywhere it the universe. It's topology would be exactly the same as the curvator of space-time, since the two are exactly proportional. This points to a deeper connection.
  4. Dec 27, 2004 #3
    It is momentum-energy that curves spacetime, and not mass alone. Since the Higgs field couples only to mass (to wit, it couples to the rest mass at the appropiate energy scale), it cannot account for (eg) the curvature of spacetime caused by a travelling photon.
  5. Dec 27, 2004 #4
    How can it couple to mass when mass is 'created' by interaction to the higgs field.

    Cool, so photons curves spacetime now?...
    *uses magnifing glass to create blackhole*
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2004
  6. Dec 27, 2004 #5
    By that I mean the Higgs field couples to particles with an effective strength proportional to their observed masses.
    Photons always curved spacetime :biggrin: if you look at the Einstein equation you can see there's a lot more going on than just mass curving spacetime.
  7. Jan 2, 2005 #6
    This has been very well known for a very long time.
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