GR & Higgs Field: Linked by Mass?

In summary, the conversation discusses the role of the higgs field in giving particles their mass and its potential connection to gravity and spacetime. It is suggested that the higgs field is responsible for gravity and that the two may have a deeper connection. However, this assumption raises questions about how the higgs field can couple to mass when mass is created by its interaction. The conversation also briefly touches on the idea that photons also have an effect on curving spacetime.
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If the higgs field is responsible for giving particles their mass, isn't it then the higgs field that is responsible for the effects of GR?
Is this assesment true and, if so, does it have any implecations? Could the higgs field (which has been described as an ether) and spacetime be in some way linked more deeply?
 
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No-one brave enough to take this on? ok

Well, I'll expand on it for the hell of it.

-Energy doesn't effect spacetime in the same way mass does. (its the defining difference between the two)
-Mass is only produced by the higgs field
-without the higgs field, there would be no gravity. (inflation theory relies on this)

Isn't it reasonable to assume that gravity is then caused by the higgs field and not directly by the particle.

But this assumption brings up other problems. The higgs field is supposed to be like an ether, it exists everywhere it the universe. It's topology would be exactly the same as the curvator of space-time, since the two are exactly proportional. This points to a deeper connection.
 
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It is momentum-energy that curves spacetime, and not mass alone. Since the Higgs field couples only to mass (to wit, it couples to the rest mass at the appropiate energy scale), it cannot account for (eg) the curvature of spacetime caused by a traveling photon.
 
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zefram_c said:
Since the Higgs field couples only to mass (to wit, it couples to the rest mass at the appropiate energy scale)
How can it couple to mass when mass is 'created' by interaction to the higgs field.

zefram_c said:
it cannot account for (eg) the curvature of spacetime caused by a traveling photon.

Cool, so photons curves spacetime now?...
*uses magnifing glass to create black hole*
 
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|2eason said:
How can it couple to mass when mass is 'created' by interaction to the higgs field.
By that I mean the Higgs field couples to particles with an effective strength proportional to their observed masses.
Cool, so photons curves spacetime now?...
*uses magnifing glass to create black hole*
Photons always curved spacetime :biggrin: if you look at the Einstein equation you can see there's a lot more going on than just mass curving spacetime.
 
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|2eason said:
Cool, so photons curves spacetime now?...
*uses magnifing glass to create black hole*

This has been very well known for a very long time.
 

1. What is the relationship between general relativity and the Higgs field?

The Higgs field is a theoretical concept in particle physics that is believed to give mass to fundamental particles. General relativity, on the other hand, is a theory of gravity that explains how mass and energy interact with spacetime. In this sense, the Higgs field and general relativity are linked by the concept of mass, as the Higgs field is responsible for the existence of mass in the universe according to the Standard Model of particle physics, while general relativity describes how mass affects the curvature of spacetime.

2. How does the Higgs field affect the behavior of particles?

The Higgs field interacts with particles through the Higgs mechanism, which gives particles their mass. Without the Higgs field, particles would have no mass and would travel at the speed of light. The Higgs field also gives rise to the Higgs boson, a particle that was discovered in 2012 and is responsible for mediating the interactions between particles and the Higgs field.

3. Can the Higgs field explain the origin of mass in the universe?

While the Higgs field is believed to be responsible for giving mass to fundamental particles, it does not explain the origin of mass in the universe. The Higgs field is simply a fundamental force of nature that exists in the universe, and its interactions with particles give them mass. The exact origin of mass in the universe is still a mystery and is an area of ongoing research in cosmology and particle physics.

4. How does general relativity incorporate the Higgs field?

In general relativity, the Higgs field is typically considered to be a background field that affects the curvature of spacetime. This means that the presence of the Higgs field can affect the behavior of particles, but it does not change the fundamental principles of general relativity. However, some theories, such as quantum gravity, seek to incorporate the Higgs field into the equations of general relativity in order to provide a more complete understanding of the universe.

5. Are there any experiments that have confirmed the link between GR and the Higgs field?

Currently, there are no experiments that directly confirm the link between general relativity and the Higgs field. However, the discovery of the Higgs boson in 2012 at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) provided strong evidence for the existence of the Higgs field and its role in giving particles mass. Further experiments at the LHC and other particle accelerators are ongoing to study the properties of the Higgs boson and further understand its relationship with general relativity.

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