Graphing Piecewise Functions Using Derivatives

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The discussion revolves around graphing piecewise functions, specifically focusing on the function y=|x^2-4|+2 and its derivatives to find relative extrema and minima. Participants are exploring the implications of absolute values in the context of derivatives and graphing techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the strategy of removing absolute value signs by analyzing where the expression is positive or negative. There are attempts to derive the function and understand its behavior across different intervals.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting methods to graph the function and derive it. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the application of derivatives in analyzing piecewise functions, indicating an ongoing exploration of the topic.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the behavior of the function at critical points and the role of derivatives in determining increasing and decreasing intervals, as well as concavity. There is mention of a specific piecewise definition and the impact of the constant added to the function.

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Homework Statement


y=|x^2-4|+2 find f`,relative extrema,minima.



Homework Equations


Detailed graphing of
y={ 9-x,x<=3
x^2-3,x>3

using derivatives


The Attempt at a Solution


I m not sure how to do this sort of prblems.
 
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Usually, it works to get rid of the absolute value signs. So first solve where x^2 - 4 is positive and negative and treat those cases separately.

Simple example: derive y = |x|.
1) For x > 0 (or x = 0), this reads y = x. Then the derivative is y' = 1.
2) For x < 0, it means y = -x. Then the derivative is y' = -1.

Afterwards, you may try to find a general formula. For example, if you are used to working with such things, you might write something like: y' = sign(x) for x non-zero (and for x = 0, the derivative is undefined).
 
Graphing is the simplest thing to do. As CompuChip said, get rid of the absolute value signs. x2- 4 is 0 at x= -2 and x= 2. Between -2 and 2, x2- 4 is negative and so |x2- 4|= 4- x2. Graph y= x2- 4 up to x= -2, then y= 4- x2 for x between -2 and 2, and, finally, graph y= x2- 4 for x> 2.

That is the same, of course, as graphing y= x2- 4, then "flipping" the part of the graph below the y-axis up. It should be easy to see where relative max and min are.
 
HallsofIvy said:
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Graph y= x2- 4 up to x= -2, then y= 4- x2 for x between -2 and 2, and, finally, graph y= x2- 4 for x> 2.

That is the same, of course, as graphing y= x2- 4, then "flipping" the part of the graph below the y-axis up. [..]

And for your real question, don't forget the +2 :smile:
 
CompuChip said:
And for your real question, don't forget the +2 :smile:

Thanks i have understood that.I know how to graph piecewise functions but i m confused how to draw them by using the method of derivative i mean by f` and f`` increasing part decreasing part,concave up down and so on.
 

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