Gravitational potential energy and Electric potential energy

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The discussion explores the concept of energy transformation in gravitational and electric potential energy scenarios. When a pen is lowered from a box to a table, the gravitational potential energy decreases, but the energy does not disappear; it is transformed into work done against gravitational forces. In the case of electric potential energy, energy is dissipated as thermal energy when a charge moves through a potential difference, illustrating energy conservation. The participant questions where the energy goes in the gravitational scenario, concluding that the work done by the pen as it descends is countered by the energy expended by the person lowering it. This highlights the interconnectedness of energy forms and conservation principles in both gravitational and electrical contexts.
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Hi,

I've been thinking on this for a while, any help would be great :)

I have a box placed over a table. There's a pen kept over the box. What I do here is move the pen slowly, without changing its velocity and bring it down on the table.

Assuming the table and box are at a height h1 and h2 respectively. The change in potential energy is mg(h2-h1).

Here is my doubt now, there is no change in KE, but there's a energy change, that is the energy stored within the pen has decreased. My question is where does this energy remaining go?


Now coming to the electric potential energy, If a battery movies a charge q through a potential diff Va (Higher pot) to Vb (low pot). The work done is q(Vb-Va). Though there is decrease in pot energy here, the remaining energy is dissipated as thermal energy and satisfies the law of conservation of energy.

My basic doubt is, the energy which comes out as thermal energy in case of electrical circuits, like this, what happens to the remaining energy in case of table-box situation.
 
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Because the pen was brought down slowly it did work on whatever kept it from accelerating. That work is exactly equal to the missing energy.
 
Now I get it, this means when i actually bring it down, it does work on me. To counter that my energy is expended. Am i right?

Thanks for the help :)
 
It may be shown from the equations of electromagnetism, by James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860’s, that the speed of light in the vacuum of free space is related to electric permittivity (ϵ) and magnetic permeability (μ) by the equation: c=1/√( μ ϵ ) . This value is a constant for the vacuum of free space and is independent of the motion of the observer. It was this fact, in part, that led Albert Einstein to Special Relativity.

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