I Gravity assist and increasing orbital energy

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Firing boosters at perigee is the most efficient way to increase orbital energy in an elliptical orbit due to the higher velocity at this point. The kinetic energy increase is greater because the energy change includes a term that multiplies the current velocity by the change in velocity, resulting in a larger overall energy gain. This concept is related to the Oberth effect, where performing maneuvers at higher speeds yields more energy efficiency. The discussion also clarifies the distinction between gravity assist and the Oberth effect, with gravity assist typically involving slingshot maneuvers around celestial bodies. Understanding these principles is crucial for optimizing orbital maneuvers in space travel.
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Hi, so whilst doing some reading I came across a section that said the most efficient way to increase your orbital energy when in an elliptical orbit is to fire your 'boosters' at perigee. I understand that the satellite is moving faster, but why should this mean that more energy is imparted to the satellite than when fired at apogee, assuming the change in the velocity is the same in both cases? It makes intuitive sense, but not logical sense (or at least not to me)

Many thanks :)
 
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Consider the kinetic energy increase from Δv => 1/2 m (v + Δv)2 = 1/2 m (v2 + 2 v Δv + Δv2). Note that the energy increase includes the term v Δv, so a higher v with the same Δv means a higher increase in energy.
 
rcgldr said:
Consider the kinetic energy increase from Δv => 1/2 m (v + Δv)2 = 1/2 m (v2 + 2 v Δv + Δv2). Note that the energy increase includes the term v Δv, so a higher v with the same Δv means a higher increase in energy.

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Physgeek64 said:
Hi, so whilst doing some reading I came across a section that said the most efficient way to increase your orbital energy when in an elliptical orbit is to fire your 'boosters' at perigee. I understand that the satellite is moving faster, but why should this mean that more energy is imparted to the satellite than when fired at apogee, assuming the change in the velocity is the same in both cases? It makes intuitive sense, but not logical sense (or at least not to me)

Many thanks :)
Just curious -- you mention Gravity Assist in your thread title, but not in your post. Should I update the title? Thanks. :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Just curious -- you mention Gravity Assist in your thread title, but not in your post. Should I update the title? Thanks. :smile:

Well I assumed this is a form of gravity assist since you need the gravity to speed up your orbit at perigee to then be able to fire your thrusters to increase your orbital energy, more so than at perigee. But if you don't feel the title is fitting, then please feel free :)
 
Physgeek64 said:
Well I assumed this is a form of gravity assist since you need the gravity to speed up your orbit at perigee to then be able to fire your thrusters to increase your orbital energy, more so than at perigee. But if you don't feel the title is fitting, then please feel free :)
What you have described is the Oberth effect. More commonly, "gravity assist" refers to a slingshot maneuver where a craft passes closely behind a planet or moon to gain speed or closely ahead to dump speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist
 
jbriggs444 said:
What you have described is the Oberth effect. More commonly, "gravity assist" refers to a slingshot maneuver where a craft passes closely behind a planet or moon to gain speed or closely ahead to dump speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist

Thanks for the correction :)
 
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