Atomic Radius of H & He: Why is H Larger?

In summary, the calculated atomic radius of hydrogen is larger than that of helium due to the number of electrons and the nuclear charge. The concept of atomic radius is difficult to define and can be calculated more accurately than measured. The increase in radius is only significant when a new shell is formed, leading to the similar radii of most metal atoms. The Bohr radius plays a significant role in determining the atomic radius.
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Question, sorry if it already answered:

See this link:
http://www.wacklepedia.com/h/hy/hydrogen.html

Question is, why is calculated atomic radius of hydrogen (53 pm) LARGER than calculated radius of helium (31 pm) ? How can a single proton have larger radius than helium which has two proton ?

Also, why nobody yet measure the atomic radius of helium, why it still only 'calculated'--seems like a Ph.D. dissertation project that should have been done years ago ?
 
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Well, first, the size of the nucleus has almost zero impact on the "size" of the atom, which is due to the number of electrons.

Second, as I explained recently in this post in a thread farther down, the exact 'radius' of an atom is a notoriously difficult to define concept. They're not tiny hard spheres!

The answer to why helium is smaller is that both of helium's electrons are in the same orbital as the single electron of hydrogen (the 1s orbital), so it's radius does not expand much from having the second electron. However, the doubled nuclear charge causes both electrons to move closer to the nucleus.

Here's what the radial charge distribution looks like for hydrogen: (in units of Bohr radiuses)

And for helium (same scale):
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As you can see, it's very nearly the same curve, only the helium one has been 'compressed', radially.

Both of these curves are calculated (the helium compares some approximate methods to the exact value). The reason why the values are calculated is simple: Atomic radii can be calculated much more exactly than they can be measured.

The radius of atoms only really increases substantially when you start a new shell, e.g. the next step, lithium, is quite dramatic. Which is why most metal atoms (d-orbital elements) have about the same radius. And can therefore mix with each other in crystals and form alloys.
 
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Note in the first plot above that the radial wave function for a hydrogen-like atom is of the form
e-2Zr/a0
where a0 is a fundamental constant = Bohr radius = 529 pm. So the "Bohr radius" of an atom of charge Z is 539/Z p m.
The Bohr radius = 1372 times the classical electron radius re.
 
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Thanks very much for the detailed reply.
 

1. Why is the atomic radius of hydrogen larger than that of helium?

The atomic radius of an element is determined by the distance between the nucleus and the outermost electron. Hydrogen only has one electron in its outermost shell, while helium has two. This means that hydrogen's electron is further away from the nucleus and therefore has a larger atomic radius.

2. How does the number of protons and neutrons affect the atomic radius of hydrogen and helium?

The number of protons and neutrons in the nucleus of an atom does not directly affect its atomic radius. However, the number of electrons in the outermost shell, which is determined by the number of protons, does impact the atomic radius. Since hydrogen has one proton and helium has two, hydrogen has a larger atomic radius.

3. Does the atomic radius of hydrogen and helium change with different energy levels?

Yes, the atomic radius of both hydrogen and helium can change with different energy levels. As electrons absorb or release energy, they can move to different energy levels and therefore change the distance between the nucleus and the outermost electron, thus changing the atomic radius.

4. How does the atomic radius of hydrogen and helium compare to other elements?

Hydrogen and helium have the smallest atomic radii of all the elements. This is because they only have one and two electrons respectively, resulting in a smaller distance between the nucleus and outermost electron compared to elements with more electrons in their outermost shells.

5. Is the atomic radius of hydrogen and helium affected by their position on the periodic table?

The position of an element on the periodic table does not directly affect its atomic radius. However, elements in the same group (vertical column) tend to have similar atomic radii, so hydrogen and helium, which are in the first group, have similar atomic radii compared to other elements in the same group.

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