Half-life exercise, radioactive/non-radioactive ratio

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The discussion revolves around solving problems related to radioactivity and the concept of half-life. For the first problem, it is established that after 30 minutes, three half-lives have occurred, resulting in 0.125 kg of radioactive nitrogen 13 remaining, leading to a ratio of 1:31 between radioactive and non-radioactive material after five half-lives. The participants also estimate that the ratio of radioactive to non-radioactive material reaches 1:10 between three and four half-lives. In the second problem, the size of a fingernail is compared to atomic sizes, with calculations showing that approximately 50 million cuts would be needed to reach the size of an atom. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding half-life and exponential decay in both scenarios.
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Hey guys,
I've been given a worksheet with a couple of questions concerning radioactivity, half-life etc. It is high school level and for me, it seems like the first year doing physics as our current teacher is the first one who really knows something about the subject. :) So please be patient with me. :)

Homework Statement


"Consider having one kilogram of radioactive nitrogen 13 isotope – half-life is 10 minutes. How much nitrogen will you have after 30 minutes? When is the ratio between radioactive and non-radioactive material 1:31? Estimate when the ratio is 1:10."
So,
m0 = 1 kilogram
mt (final mass) = x
t = 30 minutes
tHL (half-life) = 10 minutes

Homework Equations


mt = m0/2^x

The Attempt at a Solution


mt = 1/2^3 = 0.125 kg (since 3 H-Ls have occurred in the 30mins.) But that is everything I got to. I'm completely lost with the ratios. Could you help me, please?

Next problem:

Homework Statement


"How many times do you have to cut your fingernail in half to separate atoms from each other? How many times to get to atom’s nucleus? (suppose the fingernail is 0.5 cm long)

Homework Equations


Well, as far as I know, the size of an atom should be equal to 10^-10 m while the size of a nucleus is 10^-14 m.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I need to convert the fingernail's size to a negative power so that it is easier to compute the quotient. So, 0.5 cm = 0.005 m = 5x10^-3 m. And I'm done.. :/ Could someone please explain the process in detail?

Thanks so much!
 
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http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/halfli.html#c1

In one half-life, approximately half of a radionuclide will decay. Assuming that a radio nuclide decays to a non-radioactive (inert or stable) nuclide, in one half-life, the ratio of radioactive to nonradioactive is 1:1. In two half-lives, one-quarter (1/4) of a radio nuclide remains, which means that 3/4 of the atoms would be non-radioactive, so the ratio (r:nr) = 1:3. What fraction (or proportion) of r atoms remain such that r:nr = 1:31.


The cutting in half is a similar concept. One halves the length, with each cut, so a cut is treated like a half-life.
 
Oh, thanks! So, if I understand it correctly the answer to the first one will be after 5 half-lives, am I right?

Because 1/2^5 = 1/32 -> 1/32 remains radioactive while 31/32 have decayed, i.e. they are not radioactive -> the ratio is 1:31. Correct?

To the second exercise - I understand the concept is the same but the negative powers keep confusing me. I know that I can rewrite 0.005 m as 5x10^-3 m, but what about the rest? The next half will be 0.0025 m - and I don't know how to rewrite it so that I can easily compare it to the size of an atom at the end. Any help?
 
mrcrazyog said:
Oh, thanks! So, if I understand it correctly the answer to the first one will be after 5 half-lives, am I right?

Because 1/2^5 = 1/32 -> 1/32 remains radioactive while 31/32 have decayed, i.e. they are not radioactive -> the ratio is 1:31. Correct?

To the second exercise - I understand the concept is the same but the negative powers keep confusing me. I know that I can rewrite 0.005 m as 5x10^-3 m, but what about the rest? The next half will be 0.0025 m - and I don't know how to rewrite it so that I can easily compare it to the size of an atom at the end. Any help?
Answer to first part of the first problem is correct. Now one has to estimate when the ratio is 1:10.


In the second problem, let x be the remaining length after cutting (in half) N times. Starting with L, after one cut, one has x=L/2, after 2 cuts one has x=L/4, or (L/2)2, now find the expression for x after N cuts.
 
Ok - so the 1:10 ratio will be obtained somewhere between 3 and 4 half-lives, right? 2^3 = 8, 2^4 = 16... I would say something like 3.3 half-lives...?

To the second problem - if I know the final size has to be 10^-10 meters (the size of an atom), the equation should be as follows:
10^(-10) = 0.005 (size of the fingernail) /2^x
Now solve for 2^x:
2^x = 0.005/ 10^(-10) = 50,000,000 half-lives
So, we would have to cut it 50,000,000 times in order to match the size of an atom... Is it right? The figure seems to be quite huge :D
 
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