Deriving Hamiltonian in Landau Gauge Using Symmetric Gauge Transformation

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The discussion revolves around deriving the Hamiltonian in the Landau gauge using symmetric gauge transformations. Participants explore the definitions of variables and operators, specifically focusing on the raising and lowering operators, a and a†. There is confusion regarding the correct form of the Hamiltonian and whether certain terms are necessary, particularly the presence of the exponent "2" in the equation for Py. Suggestions are made to clarify the transformation of variables and the choice of gauge, emphasizing that the symmetric gauge may simplify the computation. The conversation concludes with a participant deciding to retry the derivation using the symmetric gauge for clarity.
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Homework Statement


Define n=(x + iy)/(2)½L and ñ=(x - iy)/(2)½L.
Also, ∂n = L(∂x - i ∂y)/(2)½ and ∂ñ = L(∂x + i ∂y)/(2)½.
with ∂n=∂/∂n, ∂x=∂/∂x, ∂y=∂/∂y, and L being the magnetic length.
a=(1/2)ñ+∂n and a=(1/2)n -∂ñ
a and a are the lowering and raising operators of quantum mechanics.

Show that H=ħωc(aa + ½)

Homework Equations


L=ħc/eB, ωc=eB/mc (cyclotron frequency), e for the charge of the electron
H = Px2/2m + ( Py2 + eBx/c )2/2m

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to find x,y,∂x,∂y in terms of n,ñ,∂n,∂ñ. But I ended up getting only some if the right terms to come out but not all, is my first step wrong? Any suggestions?
 
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shinobi20 said:
H = Px2/2m + ( Py2 + eBx/c )2/2m
Should the exponent "2" of ##P_y## be there?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
Should the exponent "2" of ##P_y## be there?
Sorry, it was a typo. Do you have any suggestions?
 
You should post your initial attempt before we can discuss further. In particular, how the old variables look like in terms of the new ones?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
You should post your initial attempt before we can discuss further. In particular, how the old variables look like in terms of the new ones?
This is what I've done so far. My problem is that everything is there except for the ½. I wrote ∂ for ∂n and ∂(bar) for ∂ñ.
 

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According to this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau_quantization, the Gauge you should be using is the symmetric gauge and hence the original Hamiltonian should be different than that you are using. For instance, in Landau gauge, the operator ##{y}## is not present.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
According to this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau_quantization, the Gauge you should be using is the symmetric gauge and hence the original Hamiltonian should be different than that you are using. For instance, in Landau gauge, the operator ##{y}## is not present.
Why can't I show it using the Landau gauge? The choice is just for simplification of computation right?
 
shinobi20 said:
Why can't I show it using the Landau gauge? The choice is just for simplification of computation right?
##x## and ##y## appear symmetrically in the gauge transformation, but they do not in the original Hamiltonian.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
##x## and ##y## appears symmetrically in the gauge transformation, but they do not in the original Hamiltonian.
Oh I see that, then I'll try it again using the symmetric gauge. Thanks!
 
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