Having trouble proving a property of convex sets:

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of convex sets in the context of an economics homework problem. The original poster is tasked with demonstrating that a set C is convex if and only if aC + bC = (a+b)C for all nonnegative scalars a and b, using the definition of convexity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to prove the statement in the forward direction, expressing uncertainty about how to manipulate the definition of convexity to reach the desired conclusion. They also reflect on their geometric intuition but seek a more rigorous approach.
  • Another participant suggests starting with a simple example involving intervals in real numbers to illustrate the property, prompting the original poster to consider how to show that a specific linear combination results in an element of C.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different angles of the problem. One participant has provided a potential approach through an example, which may help clarify the original poster's understanding. However, there is no explicit consensus or resolution yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has already established some properties of convex sets, such as the behavior of linear combinations and the convexity of sums and scalar multiples, but they feel these may not directly assist in their current proof.

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In my econ homework, I was asked to prove that:
A set C is convex iff a C + b C = (a+b) C for all nonnegative scalars a and b.

All that I'm given is that the definition of a convex set is, for x,y elements of a convex set C:
(1-a) x + a y exists in C, for 0<a<1

My thoughts were to first prove it in the forward direction. So suppose C convex. Then a C + b C = {ax+by : x,y exist in C}. Somehow I need to get this to a C + b C = {(a+b) x : x exist in C}. I'm not seeing how to do this using the definition of a convex set. I can see why this is true geometrically by noting the set a C + b C is simply the b C superimposed on a bunch a C's on the edge, so the new "radius" becomes a+b but this isn't rigorous.

I have already proved that if a set C is convex then for every finite subset and nonegative scalars that sum to 1, the linear combination is also in C; that the sum of two convex sets is convex, and that scalar multiples of convex sets are convex, so I can use those properties but I don't think they help.
 
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Start by looking at a simple example. Suppose C is an interval in the real numbers (all convex sets in R1 are intervals). Then aC+ bC= {ax1+ bx2} where x1 and x2 are contained in C. You want to prove that there always exist x in C such that ax1+ bx2= (a+ b)x. Well, obviously, x= (ax1+ bx2)/(a+b)= (a/(a+b))x1+ (b/(a+b))x2. Do you see how to prove that x is in C?
 
Ah, I see. Thank you so much for your help.
 
mcah5 said:
In my econ homework, I was asked to prove that:
A set C is convex iff a C + b C = (a+b) C for all nonnegative scalars a and b.

All that I'm given is that the definition of a convex set is, for x,y elements of a convex set C:
(1-a) x + a y exists in C, for 0<a<1

My thoughts were to first prove it in the forward direction. So suppose C convex. Then a C + b C = {ax+by : x,y exist in C}. Somehow I need to get this to a C + b C = {(a+b) x : x exist in C}. I'm not seeing how to do this using the definition of a convex set. I can see why this is true geometrically by noting the set a C + b C is simply the b C superimposed on a bunch a C's on the edge, so the new "radius" becomes a+b but this isn't rigorous.

I have already proved that if a set C is convex then for every finite subset and nonegative scalars that sum to 1, the linear combination is also in C; that the sum of two convex sets is convex, and that scalar multiples of convex sets are convex, so I can use those properties but I don't think they help.

how?
 

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