Having trouble working out centripetal force?

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The discussion revolves around calculating centripetal force and gravitational acceleration for the Russian Mir space station, which orbits Earth at a specific altitude and speed. The problem involves understanding the relationship between mass, radius, and velocity in the context of circular motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the application of the centripetal force formula and question the validity of the provided answer for the force. There is also exploration of the gravitational acceleration experienced by astronauts in orbit, with some participants suggesting recalculating based on the inverse square law.

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Some participants express skepticism about the correctness of the provided answer for centripetal force, while others affirm the calculations made by the original poster. There is an ongoing exploration of the gravitational acceleration, with one participant reporting a calculated value that seems reasonable.

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Participants note the importance of using correct units and significant figures in calculations. There is also mention of potential discrepancies in the answer key provided for the homework.

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Homework Statement


The Russian Mir space station had a mass of 130 tonnes and orbited Earth at an altitude of 480km with an orbital speed of 7621.4m/s. The diameter of Earth is 12 760 km.
a) What centripetal force was acting on it?
b) Find the value of the acceleration due to gravity acting on an astronaut in Mir.

Homework Equations


Fc=mv2/r
a=F/m

The Attempt at a Solution


m = 130000kg r = 6860000m v = 7621.4m/s

So Fc=(130000×7621.42)/6860000
∴Fc=1100750.136 N

The answers say 30N. What on Earth have I done wrong?

I also do not know how to go about doing b.
 
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I would recommend using scientific notation, and also only keeping two or three significant figures, but I believe your answer for the force is correct. ## \\ ## For part (b), you have the correct equation, ## a=F/m ##. That is the acceleration of the spaceship, but that is the same as the astronaut's acceleration. Because acceleration due to gravity falls off as an inverse square as measured from the center of the earth, since this satellite is in somewhat of a low Earth orbit, your answer should not be tremendously less than ## a=g=9.8 ## m/sec^2 that you get at the surface of the earth. Try computing it and see what you get. ##\\ ## Additional note: For the mass in tonnes, I think you are assuming a metric ton.
 
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Jan Berkhout said:
The answers say 30N.
This answer seems miraculously wrong.
 
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Charles Link said:
I would recommend using scientific notation, and also only keeping two or three significant figures, but I believe your answer for the force is correct. ## \\ ## For part (b), you have the correct equation, ## a=F/m ##. That is the acceleration of the spaceship, but that is the same as the astronaut's acceleration. Because acceleration due to gravity falls off as an inverse square as measured from the center of the earth, since this satellite is in somewhat of a low Earth orbit, your answer should not be tremendously less than ## a=g=9.8 ## m/sec^2 that you get at the surface of the earth. Try computing it and see what you get. ##\\ ## Additional note: For the mass in tonnes, I think you are assuming a metric ton.

I calulated part b and got 8.47m/s which seems right! I think the sheet has the answers for this question very wrong haha.

lekh2003 said:
This answer seems miraculously wrong.
Yes. It does indeed. I'm just going to go with saying the sheet is insanely incorrect.
 
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For part (b) make sure you put it in the right units which is 8.47 m/sec^2.
 
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