Heat and Mass Transfer: Nodal Networks

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This discussion focuses on the application of nodal networks in heat and mass transfer, specifically addressing the use of temperatures, black body emissive power, and radiosity at the nodes. The participant expresses confusion about when to apply each variable in different contexts, such as resistive networks and multi-mode heat transfer. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationships between temperature and emissive power to effectively utilize nodal networks in problem-solving. A reference link to a relevant chapter on heat transfer is provided for further clarification.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of nodal networks in thermal analysis
  • Familiarity with black body radiation concepts
  • Knowledge of multi-mode heat transfer principles
  • Basic mathematical modeling skills for thermal systems
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  • Study the relationship between temperature and emissive power in thermal systems
  • Explore the principles of multi-mode heat transfer in detail
  • Review resistive network analysis techniques in heat transfer
  • Examine case studies involving nodal networks in practical applications
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Electrical engineers, thermal system analysts, and students studying heat transfer who seek to deepen their understanding of nodal networks and their applications in thermal analysis.

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So this is more of a really vague conceptual question, I'm sorry if it doesn't really make sense. I'm in the stage of learning this where I don't quite understand things well enough to form a proper question.

I'm a little bit confused about nodal networks in heat and mass transfer. At the beginning of the semester when we did resistive networks, we used temperatures at the nodes of the network. Then we studied exclusively radiation, and black body emissive power and sometimes radiosity were used at the nodes of the network. Finally we studied multi-mode heat transfer, and some nodes in the network were temperature and some were emissive power or radiosity.

I guess I'm confused about when to use which? I'm pretty good at guessing at what to use at the nodes just from looking at which chapter the problem falls in, but I want to understand what I'm doing. I appreciate any help!
 
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jdawg said:

Homework Statement



So this is more of a really vague conceptual question, I'm sorry if it doesn't really make sense. I'm in the stage of learning this where I don't quite understand things well enough to form a proper question.

I'm a little bit confused about nodal networks in heat and mass transfer. At the beginning of the semester when we did resistive networks, we used temperatures at the nodes of the network. Then we studied exclusively radiation, and black body emissive power and sometimes radiosity were used at the nodes of the network. Finally we studied multi-mode heat transfer, and some nodes in the network were temperature and some were emissive power or radiosity.

I guess I'm confused about when to use which? I'm pretty good at guessing at what to use at the nodes just from looking at which chapter the problem falls in, but I want to understand what I'm doing. I appreciate any help!

To give perspective I am an electrical engineer, but I have used nodal networks to analyze some heat problems as well. I will take a shot at answering this question.

A nodal network is simply a mathematical/graphical tool to represent and derive values. see the following link for reference: https://drive.uqu.edu.sa/_/kmguedri/files/A-HT-1-Chap5.pdf

My question for you, if both temperature and emissive power are represented, what is the relationship between them?
In general for a problem you have known inputs and required outputs. You use known vlaues about your model, along with known inputs to work your way to the required outputs. If known inputs are both emisive power and temperature, then you'll need to work your model to include both of them, which will require a known relationship between them.
 

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