Heat engine/max height person can climb

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The problem involves estimating the maximum height a hiker can climb in one day using a specified amount of energy, treating the hiker as a heat engine operating between two temperatures. The context is rooted in thermodynamics and energy conversion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the efficiency of a heat engine and how it relates to the energy available for work. There are questions about the relevant formulas and how to apply them to calculate potential energy changes associated with climbing.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the efficiency formula and suggested focusing on the work done against gravity to determine the potential energy change. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply these concepts to the problem at hand.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the hiker's energy expenditure and the simplification of the problem by treating the hiker as an isolated heat engine. There is also mention of the limitations of this model in real-world scenarios.

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Ok guys, I can't seem to get started on this one. A little starter would be nice if you can...and I'll try from there.


Assume that a hiker needs 4000 kcal of energy to supply a day's worth of metabolism. Estimate the maximum height the person can climb in one day, using only this amount of energy. As a rough prediction, treat the person as an isolated heat engine, operating between the internal temperature of 37 deg C and the ambient air temperature of 20 deg C.

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Brad
 
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Do you know the formula for the efficiency of a heat engine?
 
e = 1 - Q(low)/Q(high)


I think that is it...but don't know how this helps me.
 
Replace those Q's by T's, and you have what you need. Then you know what fraction of the stored energy can be put into useful work. All you need then is to know how much work it takes to go up a certain height. They probably want you to just use the work it takes to overcome gravity, ie, the potential energy change (although realistically, this is only a small fraction of the total work done, otherwise it would be possible to walk on a flat plane for miles without burning a calorie).
 
OK...I'll try that and see what I come up with...thank you, you've been very helpful!

Brad
 

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