Heat, Work, Change in Entropy and Energy

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The discussion focuses on calculating thermodynamic properties for the cooling of nitrous oxide gas. The correct formula for heat transfer (q) is established as q = nCpΔT, leading to a calculated value of -10139.8644 J. The work done (w) is calculated using w = pΔV, resulting in a positive value of 2178.033824 J due to compression. The change in internal energy (ΔE) is then computed as -7961.830576 J. Clarifications are made regarding the distinction between enthalpy (ΔH) and entropy (S), emphasizing the importance of using the correct symbols and equations.
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Homework Statement


Calculate q, w, ∆E, and ∆H for the process in which 93.0 g of nitrous oxide gas (N2O) is cooled from 179°C to 55°C at a constant pressure of 4.00 atm.

Cp(N2O) = 38.70 J K-1 mol-1

Homework Equations


q= mCΔT
ΔH=n(Cp)=n(qv)ΔT
ΔE=q+w
w= -pΔV
*Probably something else too but I'm drawing a blank

The Attempt at a Solution


q= (93.0g)(38.70 K-1Mol-1)(-124°C) → -446288.4
w= -(4 atm) (101.3) (?) = ? *not 0 though*
ΔE=-446288.4+w=?
ΔH= (2.113 moles)(-446288.4)(-124°C)= A really big and incorrect number

Help?
 
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In your calculation of q, the units are incorrect. The grams and moles don't cancel.

From the ideal gas law, what is the initial volume? What is the final volume?

Your equation for ##\Delta H## is incorrect.
 
Chestermiller said:
In your calculation of q, the units are incorrect. The grams and moles don't cancel.

From the ideal gas law, what is the initial volume? What is the final volume?

Your equation for ##\Delta H## is incorrect.
Ok, in that case, q=nCp delta T -> (2.113 moles)(38.70)(-124) = -10139.8644 J
For the volumes I used pv=nRT, in which I calculated 19.55... for V1 and 14.175..., leaving the difference to be approximately 5.3752...
w= p delta V -> (4 x 101.3) (5.3752 L)= 2178.033824 J. Since work was put into the system to compress it, work is positive right?
Delta E= 2178.033824 + -10139.8644 J= -7961.830576 J?

Is any of that correct?
What formula should I use for Entropy instead?
 
ScreamingIntoTheVoid said:
Ok, in that case, q=nCp delta T -> (2.113 moles)(38.70)(-124) = -10139.8644 J
Correct. This is also equal to ##\Delta H##
For the volumes I used pv=nRT, in which I calculated 19.55... for V1 and 14.175..., leaving the difference to be approximately 5.3752...
Correct
w= p delta V -> (4 x 101.3) (5.3752 L)= 2178.033824 J. Since work was put into the system to compress it, work is positive right?
Correct
Delta E= 2178.033824 + -10139.8644 J= -7961.830576 J?
Correct, although I don't like how you "wild assed" this.

What formula should I use for Entropy instead?
Instead of what? What equations do you know for calculating the change in entropy for an ideal gas?
 
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Chestermiller said:
Correct. This is also equal to ##\Delta H##

Correct

Correct

Correct, although I don't like how you "wild assed" this.Instead of what? What equations do you know for calculating the change in entropy for an ideal gas?
The one I put above was the one I had in my notes. DeltaH= qp was also in there, but I looked over it I suppose.

"Wild assed ay? Is there a better way to calculate this to ensure accuracy (I have a midterm tomorrow).

THANK YOU very much!
 
ScreamingIntoTheVoid said:
The one I put above was the one I had in my notes. DeltaH= qp was also in there, but I looked over it I suppose.

"Wild assed ay? Is there a better way to calculate this to ensure accuracy (I have a midterm tomorrow).

THANK YOU very much!
##\Delta H## is not the change in entropy. It is the change in enthalpy. Entropy has the symbol S.

I would have done the other part this way:

$$W=-P\Delta V=-(4)(101.3)(-5.3752)=+2178 J$$

$$\Delta (PV)=-2178 J$$

$$\Delta H=\Delta E+\Delta (PV)$$
so
$$\Delta E=\Delta H-\Delta (PV)=-10140-(-2178)=-10140+2178=-7962 J$$
 
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