HELP A problem on quantitative aspects of electrolysis

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to the quantitative aspects of electrolysis, specifically calculating the volume of hydrogen gas produced from a known quantity of electric charge that also deposits copper at the cathode. The problem involves applying the ideal gas law and understanding the stoichiometry of the electrochemical reactions involved.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to use the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) to find the volume of hydrogen gas produced but expresses uncertainty about the approach.
  • Another participant prompts the first to consider how many moles of copper were produced and how that relates to the moles of electrons and hydrogen gas generated.
  • It is noted that 0.052 moles of copper corresponds to 0.103 moles of electrons, with a suggestion that the moles of hydrogen gas produced should be half of the moles of electrons, leading to a calculation of 0.0515 moles of hydrogen gas.
  • A later reply confirms the stoichiometric relationship between electrons and hydrogen gas, indicating that the moles of hydrogen gas can indeed be derived from the moles of electrons.
  • Another participant recommends reading about Faraday's law of electrolysis as a systematic approach to solving such problems, suggesting it aligns with the current method but may provide clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the ideal gas law and the stoichiometric relationships involved in the electrolysis process. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the exact calculations and the interpretation of moles of hydrogen gas produced, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of the ideal gas law and the stoichiometric calculations, particularly in determining the moles of hydrogen gas produced from the moles of electrons. There are also references to Faraday's law, which may provide additional context but is not fully explored in the discussion.

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HELP!A problem on quantitative aspects of electrolysis

Homework Statement


A quantity of electric charge brings about the deposition of 3.34 g Cu at a cathode during the electrolysis of a solution containing Cu2+(aq).
What volume of H2(g) measured at 27.8oC and 767 mmHg, would be produced by this same quantity of electric charge in the reduction of H+(aq) at a cathode?


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know the formula for solving the volume in the electrolysis.
The way I approached this problem is by using the ideal gas law(but I don't think it is the right way):
PV=nRT
2H++2e--->H2(g)
we are trying to solve for V, so
V=?
P=767mmHg
R=62.36367L·mmHg·K−1·mol−1
n=2
T=300.95K
plug the numbers into the equation and I got V=48.94L

Can someone please help me with it? Is it the right way for solving the problem? thank you very much.
 
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Well, you got the part about using the ideal gas law to get the volume.
But how much gas did you create? n is the number of moles of gas.

First, how many moles of copper did you produce?
How many moles of electrons does that correspond to?
How many moles of hydrogen gas do you get per mol of electrons?
 


alxm said:
Well, you got the part about using the ideal gas law to get the volume.
But how much gas did you create? n is the number of moles of gas.

First, how many moles of copper did you produce?
How many moles of electrons does that correspond to?
How many moles of hydrogen gas do you get per mol of electrons?

there are 0.052 moles of copper
0.103 moles of electrons (2 electrons transferred in copper)

I am not really sure about the moles of hydrogen gas but since there are 2 moles of electrons and 1 moles of hydrogen gas, I think that the moles of hydrogen gas is 1/2 of the moles of electrons which is 0.0515
is it right? and do i just plug the moles of hydrogen gas into the ideal gas equation?
 


Kudo Shinichi said:
there are 0.052 moles of copper
0.103 moles of electrons (2 electrons transferred in copper)

I am not really sure about the moles of hydrogen gas but since there are 2 moles of electrons and 1 moles of hydrogen gas, I think that the moles of hydrogen gas is 1/2 of the moles of electrons which is 0.0515
is it right? and do i just plug the moles of hydrogen gas into the ideal gas equation?

Right, two electrons are used in both reactions so nCu = nH2.
And you put that into the ideal gas equation to get the volume.
 


Kudo, read about Faraday's law of electrolysis. It won't give different result, as it is basically identical to what you did, it is just a systematic way of doing this type of questions.
 

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