Why is the third hydrogen attached to P instead of O in phosphorus acid?

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Stumbled upon this when I was looking at lewis dot electron structures. The phosphorus acid is dibasic. What prevents the third hydrogen from attaching to the third oxygen instead of the central phosphorus? Is there a theoretical explanation or we can only memorize this for a fact?

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Wouldn't that leave two empty phosphorus bonds? You wouldn't like phosphorus when it's angry.
 
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P will have 2 non-bonding electrons, its formal charge will still be 0. Things seem okay. What do you mean by two *empty* bonds?
 
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So you mean why P(OH)3 is instable? Not sure, but similar instabilities apply to e.g. orthocarbonic acid C(OH)4 which dehydratizes to H2CO3. The esters P(OR)3 are stable, but can convert to O=PR(OR)2.
 
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No, that's not the question. The question is why in H3PO3, two Hs are attached to O, but one O is attached to P instead of all 3 Hs attached to all 3 Os.
 
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No, that's not the question. The question is why in H3PO3, two Hs are attached to O, but one O is attached to P instead of all 3 Hs attached to all 3 Os.

@DrDu is on point - you are asking why P(OH)3 is unstable. Were it stable it would be the form observed - but it isn't.

Which sometimes means "when you calculate the energies turns out the one we observe is optimal" - and there is not other explanation than "because that's the way it is". We can try to find some generalized "why?"(and it often nicely works as a rule of thumb for things that tend to repeat in many observed molecules), but the more rare the case is, the less valuable these ideas are - they don't add any real insight.
 
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Ah I see, that was my question. I was expecting a hand waving explanation instead of just how it is what it is. It doesn't sound like there is a hand waving explanation in this case.
 
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Turns out that wikipedia contains some information on the tautomeric equilibrium between phosphonic and phosphorous acid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorous_acid
So both forms P(OH)3 and HPO(OH)2 exist but the equilibrium constant is K=10^10.3
For homologous arsenic, As(OH)3 is more stable. I am not sufficiently into inorganic chemistry to be able to provide a hand-waving explanation although it is certainly possible to come up with one knowing the size and energies of the orbitals etc.
 

1. Why is the third hydrogen attached to P instead of O in phosphorus acid?

The third hydrogen is attached to phosphorus instead of oxygen in phosphorus acid because phosphorus has a lower electronegativity than oxygen. This means that phosphorus is more likely to form covalent bonds with hydrogen compared to oxygen, resulting in the third hydrogen being attached to phosphorus.

2. How does the structure of phosphorus acid affect its properties?

The structure of phosphorus acid, with the third hydrogen attached to phosphorus instead of oxygen, affects its properties by making it a stronger acid compared to other oxyacids of phosphorus. This is because the presence of the additional hydrogen attached to phosphorus enhances the acidic properties of phosphorus acid.

3. What is the significance of the third hydrogen being attached to P in phosphorus acid?

The significance of the third hydrogen being attached to phosphorus in phosphorus acid lies in its impact on the acid's reactivity and stability. This unique structure plays a crucial role in determining the chemical behavior and properties of phosphorus acid.

4. How does the bonding arrangement in phosphorus acid differ from other acids?

The bonding arrangement in phosphorus acid differs from other acids due to the presence of the third hydrogen attached to phosphorus. This distinct bonding pattern contributes to the unique properties and behavior exhibited by phosphorus acid compared to other acids.

5. Can the position of the third hydrogen in phosphorus acid be altered?

The position of the third hydrogen in phosphorus acid cannot be easily altered as it is determined by the chemical structure and properties of phosphorus. However, through chemical reactions and modifications, it is possible to manipulate the bonding arrangement in phosphorus acid to some extent.

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